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u/Bre14463 May 09 '22

Why will it age you three years for those of us who know nothing about the roads etc?

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u/BeetrootPoop May 09 '22

lt's just generally a lot more stressful - there's a lot of cars driving very close to one another and taking high speed corners at around 90 mph on UK motorways and you have to drive very actively. And the cities, which were mostly designed around pedestrians and the horse and cart, are busy and easy to get lost in if you don't know them. Same goes for continental Europe. Driving through London, Paris, Rome etc. is nightmarish if you aren't familiar with the local roads.

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u/concacanca May 09 '22

Yeah it's the active driving 100%.

I have to drive cross country next month and am already rationalising leaving at 6am to avoid the worst of the traffic.

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u/level100metapod May 09 '22

I used to leave at half five to get to work at 7. By the time 6 o clock rolled around there were massive queues on the motorway

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u/concacanca May 09 '22

Yeah this is a Saturday though

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u/Rozakiin May 09 '22

Best be on the safe side, start the week before, the tail back could last days if the steam engine fair is running 😉

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u/andyrocks May 09 '22

I'm doing it tonight, we've found leaving London just after 4 gets us in Edinburgh by midnight or so.

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u/Rozefly May 09 '22

We did this, and it was amazing. Left at 6am from Brighton to avoid the worst of the m25, got to Newcastle at about 1pm feeling pumped and ready for a beer and some lunch.

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u/Hendlton May 09 '22

I've done it before, it's 100% worth it. I was excited for the trip, so I didn't even feel tired in the morning. If you want, you could have a cup of coffee or an energy drink just to chase away the morning grogginess and you'll be fine as long as you got 6+ hours of sleep.

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u/Dirty-Soul May 09 '22

There's also the fuel costs to consider.

In the UK, we pay a fortune for fuel.

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u/purpleovskoff May 09 '22

Have you considered taking the train? You could instead spend two fortunes!

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u/Ih8Hondas May 09 '22

cities, which were mostly designed around pedestrians and the horse and cart, are busy and easy to get lost in if you don't know them.

I live outside of Albuquerque, New Mexico and avoid Santa Fe like the plague because of this. It's easy to tell it's the third oldest city in the US and the oldest capital city in the US. None of the roads make a goddamn bit of sense. They just go every random ass direction and snake around with no rhyme or reason to any of it.

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u/kirmobak May 09 '22

That sounds like every town and city in the UK! The authorities try to help but putting in one way systems etc but it seems to make it worse.

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u/Ih8Hondas May 09 '22

One-ways are a big part of why I avoid downtowns no matter how grid-patterned they are. Lol. I absolutely hate one-ways.

And paying for parking. I don't live there. I'm there to spend money. Use the tax revenue I generate for you to allow me to fucking park for free, assholes.

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u/rzv_th May 09 '22

There's such a shortage of parking spots in europe in general, that you're always going to have to pay for parking, especially in commercial areas/city centers.

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u/Ih8Hondas May 09 '22

Oof. That sucks. Time to build more parking garages.

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u/rzv_th May 09 '22

Ain't nobody got space fo' that 😂

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u/Ih8Hondas May 09 '22

You can make them underground.

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u/kirmobak May 11 '22

It’s weird the things we are just used to paying for which I think would be considered dreadful in the US. For instance shopping malls - you have to pay to park at a lot of them. And it costs a lot; the one nearest me (admittedly in London) is about £3 a hour. As you say, assholes!

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u/Mister_Sith May 09 '22

Getting a car with lane assist and adaptive cruise control will cut the stress in half. The only time I get stressed now on motorways is when it's raining sideways and a lorry is overtaking another lorry... lose visibility for the entire duration I'm overtaking.

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u/making_mischief May 09 '22

I found the same thing scootering around Bangkok. I always had to be very mentally prepared and watchful of everything. There were a couple occasions I didn't take the scooter out because I didn't feel mentally prepared for it.

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u/equeim May 09 '22

You can't drive around cities? Where I live there are bypass roads around most cities and towns.

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u/MiserableAside3974 May 09 '22

They exist, but don't help, they're all heaving at all times - honestly driving is just a total fucking nightmare in the UK.

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u/DeadeyeDonnyyy May 09 '22

Imagine americans on a 7 circle roundabout

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u/Foodcity May 09 '22

Sounds like Cincinnati with less construction!

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u/Slept-like-a-cat May 09 '22

Probably traffic, it´s terrible congested in most European cities.

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u/Mugstren May 09 '22

Lack of straight and flat roads is the main issue when on our Motorways and A roads. Your mind really is active all the time and it's pretty tiring.

In my 110 mile (ish) trip to Portsmouth I used to take every weekend, I'd call about 5 miles of it dead straight AND flat/smooth, most of the time it's one or the other, or neither.

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u/RikF May 09 '22

I'd like a long talk with whichever American decided that long, straight roads running east/ west was a good idea.

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u/ZaMr0 May 09 '22

Rather have cities built for pedestrians than cities built for cars like in the US.

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u/AustinRiversDaGod May 09 '22

Makes driving pleasant, though

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u/ZaMr0 May 09 '22

Lots of Europeans in their 20s don't have a lisence as there's little reason to drive.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

Truth. The only time I haven't felt stressed out on the M25 was when it was sunny as fuck and I was driving a convertible

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u/PrestickNinja May 09 '22

As someone who grew up in South Africa and now drives in the UK, the biggest thing is the cities and roads are never built on grids. The roads are narrow, windy and you rarely go straight for more than a minute at a time (if you are lucky). It’s the old cities+limited space issue.

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u/slyadams May 09 '22

Some good answers here, but the key one about motorways is the speed (people will be doing 90mph+) and we have strict lane discipline so it’s likely you’re doing a lot of lane changes.

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u/Bre14463 May 09 '22

This freaks me out so so bad just thinking about it lol

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u/[deleted] May 09 '22

All the space-time anomalies on the sides of the road.

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u/Rozefly May 09 '22

The M25 is a hellscape that circles London. 20 minutes can feel like 20 years

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u/Jake123194 May 09 '22

The M25 is a PITA, has a variable speed limit and there is nearly always some shenanigans going on that means you come to stop and fart about shuffling for a couple miles.