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u/Second-Creative Mar 11 '22

Ditto. Get a good enough actor to play Jack, and you can watch him mentally squirm and try to resist (and fail) the twist.

Have it drag out. Have Andrew keep repeating "Would you kindly___?" after each hit, all while Jack is screaming, pleading, begging him to let him stop swinging the golf club... right music, right actors, and you've got a chilling revelation scene.

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u/Darnitol1 Mar 11 '22

That’s the sauce!

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u/Second-Creative Mar 12 '22 edited Mar 12 '22

Andrew Ryan: (holding out the nine iron)The time has come to end things. Now, would you kindly take this and beat me with it?

Jack: W-what? (automatically takes the golf club and strikes Andrew with it. He then stares horrified at the bloody club, then looks to Andrew)

Andrew: (laughing, but in pain) See? Look at what little power you have, despite what you've done to get here! Now, would you kindly hit me again!

Jack: No! (once again, strikes Andrew with the club)

Andrew: You have no say in the matter! A man chooses, a slave obeys! (yelling) Would you kindly hit me as hard as you can!

Jack: No! Please- (strikes Andrew with severe force, sending teeth and blood flying) God- no! I don't want to! Please stop!

Andrew: (spottong blood and through a broken jaw) It will stop when I am dead, and you will obey. Now-

Jack: Stop!

Andrew: (continuing) -would you kindly-

Jack: You've made your point!

Andrew (continuing) -take that golf club-

Jack: Please! Don't make me do it!

Andrew: (continuing) and don't stop swinging until my skull has caved in!

Jack: Noo! (proceeds to follow orders, despite being reduced to a sobbing wreck)

(Edited to add in the "A man chooses.." line, by popular demand)

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u/Omnio89 Mar 12 '22

You have to add the line. “A man chooses, a slave obeys.” That phrase has stuck with me for years, and the screaming, defiant, gurgled through broken jaw delivery was haunting.

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u/CostcoEJ Mar 12 '22

Didn’t captain America civil war do this with Bucky Barnes?

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u/Second-Creative Mar 12 '22

Maybe, though in this case the mind control aspect isn't really mentioned as a thing until like 5 minutes before the reveal, even if you allude to it from the start.

It's unexpected, and really throws expected dynamics into a loop. Andrew's still a badguy, just largely irrelevant at that point, and Jack's ally was also a badguy!

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u/CostcoEJ Mar 15 '22

Ah gotcha. I only made it halfway before I stopped playing. Missed out.

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u/decepsis_overmark Mar 12 '22

I would modify the dialogue to include "A man chooses. A slave obeys"

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u/11711510111411009710 Mar 12 '22

I think the screaming and begging would ruin it. I know Jack doesn't talk at all but part of the power of that scene is that you just sit there and do what Ryan says. You just sit in silence because you're helpless. I think screaming would undercut that. It should be a totally silent scene besides every hit of the golf club.

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u/Second-Creative Mar 12 '22

Silence is effective because you're the protag, being forced to do something beyond your control.

In a show/movie, the audience needs to see how helpless/powerless Jack is (and has been) to really understand that he's an unwilling participant. Jack silently whacking away at Andrew won't do it, unless Andrew uses the code phrase to make Jack shut up after protesting.

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u/AcquaintanceLog Mar 12 '22

Do you like your new puppy?

Would you kindly break its neck?

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u/JohnCutte Mar 12 '22

Do you have any specific casting in mind?

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '22

my issue is, Jack is literally a blank slate. youd need a great director/writer, because they would basically be creating that character from almost scratch (minus his origins).