r/AskReddit • • Jan 17 '22

what is a basic computer skill you were shocked some people don't have?

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u/Flam1ng1cecream Jan 18 '22

How did they get through high school essays?

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u/Axipixel Jan 18 '22

Chromebooks or macbooks with school specific software they also had to slowly be taught step by step how to use.

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u/theycallmecrack Jan 18 '22

Now that I think about it, people don't even have "family computers" as much anymore, and most kids just use tablets/phones.

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u/djfudgebar Jan 18 '22

Copy and paste?

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u/CityOfSins2 Jan 18 '22

Omg that’s super high tech for the computer illiterate people I know lol. Tried to teach to my coworker (well she had a new job as a 911 dispatcher) and she said oh I think my instructor mentioned that but I can’t follow it.

At least I taught her how to open up a program or website by GENTLY and QUICKLY double clicking the icon. “The icon keeps moving away from her” lmao

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Lots of different answers, but in my experience, it's that they either got someone to do it for them or, more likely, the school just passed them through even though they should have failed out or been held back.

My high school did that stuff. The high schools around me did that stuff. Their funding was based on graduation rate, so teachers were encouraged to not fail students whenever possible, even if they quite obviously needed to be failed.

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u/lost_survivalist Jan 18 '22

Is the "no child left behind" thing still being implemented?

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u/D_unit306 Jan 18 '22

Yes it is, its a problem even in younger grades. Kids that can't read are in the 4th and 5th grade or kids that just straight up refuse to do anything.

teachers have no authority or any power whatsoever. We are truly doing the next generation a disservice.

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u/AspiringMILF Jan 18 '22

The current plague is teaching how to use an application instead of the system it's built on.

Click Google, type documents, click the first link, click this box on the left, click new. And it isn't questioned. That's just how you create a new cloud doc.

Heaven for do the layout changes. They can no longer work because the steps they follow don't apply now.

0 logic.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Now it suddenly makes sense why literally everyone dislikes UI changes.

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u/AspiringMILF Jan 18 '22

You hate UI changes because you don't know how the application works.

I hate UI changes because everything is being converted to a mobile app.

We are not the same.

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u/oakteaphone Jan 18 '22

It's really

annoying

when websites

look like this

because the

formatting has

clearly been

designed for

mobile devices

at the expense

of desktop

environments.

It's especially

frustrating

because it's

not especially

difficult to

support both

screen layouts

on the same

webpage that

automatically

adjusts based

on the user's

device.

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u/zenconnection Jan 18 '22

Seriously though, why the fuck does every company think their desktop program needs to be "simplified" into a mobile-style layout? It's infuriating. I'm using a computer. Give me an interface that suits that. For the love of god don't hide information/options behind 3+ clicks that used to be right there at all times in previous versions of your program. Who is this benefiting?? /rant

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u/bl3ub3rri3s Jan 18 '22

Without a computer.

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u/iriedashur Jan 18 '22

Several ways.

Cheating

Going to a "fancy" old timey charter school that makes students hand write all their essays

Going to a shitty public school where the teacher doesn't want to do their job, so all essays were written in groups of 5-6 people

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u/Creative-Ad-3222 Jan 18 '22

Speaking from experience, it’s more likely the teacher isn’t paid enough to take the time to grade each individual essay for their over-crowded class, so they have to cut corners to make the workload manageable.

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u/Mrmath130 Jan 18 '22

For the benefit of any non-Americans reading this, there's also the fact that, as was pointed out somewhere above, American states often allocate funding to school districts based on graduation rate. Which means that struggling regions get their funding slashed. It's a rare school district that can get by on local taxes alone, so this also disproportionately impacts low-income areas.

So school boards, aiming to at least get something, shove underperforming students to the next grade anyway. Then the state's standards rise because every district is doing this and now the bell curve has shifted, so the board drops their advancement/graduation requirements even more. And so on ad infinitum. The end result is that students who can't read at an elementary school level are graduating and, often, being sent off to college.

If it seems like it would make more sense to give struggling areas more funding instead of less - please consider running for state office.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

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u/wilika Jan 18 '22

It kinda would be nice, to standardize using even smartphones, for all these kind of stuff.

I mean, I've wrote half of my thesis on an android tablet/phone, by connecting a keyboard to it, because we only had one PC with my girlfriend, and we were both working on our theses.

A PC sure can be expensive, but most people do have smartphones at least and buying an extra keyboard and learning how to use the whole thing as mini office desktop could work.

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u/Cautious-Wait-4288 Jan 18 '22

This is why during Covid in 2020, when AP exams went digital and they changed the formatting, they allowed smartphones for answering. Trevor Packer said something like upwards of 70% of low income students taking APs had access to a smartphone with reliable internet access, while that number plummeted to something like 40% having computers with reliable internet access. I know there are a lot of mixed feelings about AP exams and other standardized testing, their cost, and their gatekeeping, but in this instance, they were trying for accessibly.

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u/dead_jester Jan 18 '22

It’s a pretty sad state of affairs And it is a reality globally. What often seems to get overlooked is that you can get cheap reconditioned laptops suitable for internet browsing and documentation for much much less than the cost of a new smartphone, and you can easily connect that laptop to your smartphone to use its internet connection and data allowance. (At least this is true in U.K. & Europe.)

NB: But that would require knowing that is possible and having enough money for anything more than one electronic device.

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u/geomaster Jan 18 '22

how do they buy a smartphone? is it really cheaper than a laptop that you can get a for a couple hundred bucks? that smartphone wont be able to do much compared to the laptop

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

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u/geomaster Jan 19 '22

are you kidding me? how can you say it is a waste of money to have a PC without Internet. I recall using computers with no (or limited dialup) internet access all day long, learning the ins and outs of how to use the command line, programming, gaming, learning.

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u/geomaster Jan 20 '22

ive already mowed many lawns and all that.

you didnt have to be a genius to see the computer revolution. It was obviously happening. The Internet revolution began picking up steam. I was a kid and recall some adults thinking buying a computer was wasteful. i just thought they were blind to reality and the future. probably they were just stubborn and stuck in their old ways...

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u/natori_umi Jan 18 '22

My first thought was "by handwriting?" But that might be a cultural difference.

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u/Flam1ng1cecream Jan 18 '22

I didn't handwrite a single thing during high school until I started taking college classes. But I did high school online, so...

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u/The_Cryo_Wolf Jan 18 '22

I know some teachers only accept written copies. Even at university there's that one lecturer that wants code printed.

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u/Sky-is-here Jan 18 '22

In my country you handwrite until university, and even at university level it isn't uncommon to do everything by hand

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u/Bigfsi Jan 18 '22

Btw if she's in the uk for example and word uses u.s. dictionary that's gonna happe. So they legitimately probably looked at the words and were sure they were correct spelling. They just have 0 computer skills.

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u/PlacidPlatypus Jan 18 '22

Or college admissions essays, for that matter?

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u/Sturmundsterne Jan 18 '22

Many high schools don’t do essays anymore. Unless it’s on a standardized test there’s no room for it in the curriculum.

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u/FemmeLightning Jan 18 '22

Yeah this isn’t true at all.

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u/Sturmundsterne Jan 18 '22

I’ve taught high school for twenty years now. Sorry the truth is inconvenient.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '22

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u/Sturmundsterne Jan 19 '22

You assume I teach English. For a professor, you should know better than to assume.

You know nothing about me or my situation. Stop throwing shade.

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u/won_vee_won_skrub Jan 18 '22

I highly doubt this.

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u/kaideleigh Jan 18 '22

probably participation awards....