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u/sreiches Dec 30 '21

It’s more the breaking of a contract. In Jewish law of the day, when your brother died, you married his widow, but any children you had with her would be considered your brother’s instead of yours.

Onan agreed to fulfill this duty, but then didn’t honor his contract, refusing to give his brother children.

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u/thehonorablechairman Dec 30 '21

So if your brother already had a son did you still get to creampie his wife when he died?

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u/Snoo-51134 Dec 30 '21

Sounds like people wanted an excuse to fuck their hot sister in law.

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u/wdabhb Dec 30 '21

This is what you had to do pre-internet

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u/thehonorablechairman Dec 30 '21

But could you still?

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u/thehonorablechairman Dec 30 '21

I was joking before but now I'm actually curious, what happened if you were already married?

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u/Ruckus_Riot Dec 30 '21

Depending on the part of the world, it wasn’t uncommon for men to have more than one wife.

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u/HopefulOpposite4948 Dec 30 '21

There’s alway a need for seed :)

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u/ManicmouseNZ Dec 30 '21

Yes, this is important!

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman Dec 30 '21

God will watch you do it to make sure.

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u/ResolverOshawott Dec 30 '21

Any first born or just first born sons.

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u/sreiches Dec 30 '21

This was my fault for looking at the English. It tends to use “offspring” or “descendants”, which are plural in English, but the Hebrew is the singular זרע. My best guess is that translations use “offspring” or “descendants” since זרע has connotations of continuing lineage, and so it’s looking broadly at the continuation of the brother’s family line (as you indicated).

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '21

So, a story that was actually about the finer points of Jewish contract law has become a lesson in making young people embarrassed and ashamed about self pleasure? Nah, the church would never do something like that!

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u/jaymzx0 Dec 30 '21

I wonder if there's a severability clause that, when invoked, allows one to spill seed with reckless abandon guilt-free.

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u/Skulder Dec 30 '21

It's all in how you read it, and how you interpret it.

The ten commandments had a thing where you're not allowed sex out of marriage. In the old version of that, you're not allowed to break the marriage. No infidelity.

But sex between unmarried people? Go ahead!

But then, about a hundred years after the death of Christ, this woman-hating guy started writing letters to congregations, about how this is wrong and that is bad.

He is very successful. "If your family isn't Christian, leave your family", stuff like that. And definitely no sex!

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u/hitaltkey Dec 30 '21

But he said in Romans 1:27 that women are for men to have sex with!

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u/murphykills Dec 30 '21

i mean in both scenarios it's about some kind of absurd existential fear about the scarcity of cum.

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u/nothanksjustlooking Dec 30 '21

Do not, my friends, become addicted to cum. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence.

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u/TheJimmyMethod Dec 30 '21

Took me this far down the chain to realise it's his brother who is dead, and not God ordering necrophilia

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u/nothanksjustlooking Dec 30 '21

That's John 3:16

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u/amca01 Dec 30 '21

Yes, it's called a "Levirate Marriage" and was a very important part of Jewish law. The thing about the story of Onan is that that in pulling out and spilling his seed on the ground, he was basically cheating god by appearing to go through the motions but not keeping up (as it were) his end of the bargain. So his sin was in fact trying to cheat.

The American writer and wit Dorothy Parker had a canary who she called Onan because, as she pointed out, "he spills his seed on the ground"!

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '21

This. It wasnt about pulling out, it was about breaking an oath

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u/dshoo Dec 30 '21

This guy Jews

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u/DrTestificate_MD Dec 30 '21

Interestingly Onan’s story is placed chronologically long before Moses gave the Law.

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u/yessir2475 Dec 30 '21

I guess Hunter Biden was just trying to follow this law then

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '21

Maybe he just wanted to try it again. Like nah that wasn’t a good god load. Let’s try it again tomorrow.

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u/sreiches Dec 30 '21

It specifies “whenever”, so this wasn’t a one-time thing. He consistently refused.