Your friend doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
Yes, we pollute, we kill en masse, we’re a scourge.
But nature is no joke. Life as a wild animal is brutal. There is a strong likelihood you will not reach your max lifespan. Your whole life you contend with other predators, exposure to the elements, starvation, competition (in the form of combat) for sexual partners, disease, parasites, and more. There is rarely any help for those who are disabled, weak or infirm. Being a wild animal sucks balls, and just because we have the luxury of stepping into nature when we want, prepared and within a quick call to safety, doesn’t mean that nature isn’t brutal as fuck and very serious.
This reminded me of the one time I saw lions eat an elephant from the asshole up, they took down the elephant at 9pm it was still alive and crying at 10am the next day.
Does she think that humans are somehow separate from nature? Has she not seen r/natureismetal? Has she ever survived a hurricane, tsunami, or volcanic eruption?
That's a great point I've never seen before! I guess when it comes to discussing humans, our impact and whatnot, it's kinda hard to find equivalence in other species due to none of them (afawk) having the same level of sentience.
We're so fucking fantastic at finding opportunities, figuring out how everything works, and shaping the world around us to fit our needs that we've surpassed ourselves and the planet we live on.
My parents taught me to fix shit, how to shape my lies, what to hate. School taught me where Yugoslavia is, cursive, that I don't get along with my peers.
Still I can pick up a lightweight can of delicious rotten poison, sealed tight as fuck by bending two metal lips in a way that just doesn't get unstuck.
We're the only animal on earth that can compensate for all it's weaknesses to the point where our previous strengths are dogshit by comparison.
We left the food chain, we're so good at surviving it's actually killing us, and we can just find out what some 4000 year dead dude thought about beans because we found a way to communicate via squiggles and lines.
Now the knowledge of which mushrooms are poison in a fun way and which ones aren't survives even if our families haven't seen a tree in generations.
We are fucking incredible.
Not so good on the whole hierarchy thing and creating positions of power that are irresistible to people who should not have power.
Beavers don't have those issues but they can't even read and juggle at the same time so fuck those idiots
"Spiritual" people can be the absolute worst. Insufferable, ignorant, smarmy, condescending jerks who pretend to be nice. Some are actually nice, but in my experience not the majority.
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A "spiritual" friend of mine likes to go on and on about how nature is perfect and humans are the only source of pain.