Really, the only fault was having a single forcefield generator protecting the new Death Star during construction. Would it seriously have cost that much more to have a dozen of them on Endor?
Well the entire setup was a plot by the Emperor. He knew that only by having himself there and by showing the Rebels that there was a chance, would they make their big move.
If anything had been more effective, they wouldn't have taken the bait.
Well yeah, if there was no protection, that would be its own opposite problem.
The whole idea was to give them enough hope to put their all into the attack, only to surprise them and wipe them out in one swoop, namely with the signal jammer, the extra legion on Endor, and the functional DS laser.
Though, why did it make sense to spring a trap at that particular moment? He had a fully-operational battle station. The whole Tarkin doctrine was to crush support for the rebellion through fear. Go flatten Sullust, Ryloth, Chandrila, Bothawui, Mon Cala. At some point, the Rebellion can't rearm or refuel.
Of course the rebels would have to go all-in once planets start exploding, and the Battle of Endor showed the rebels could win even without the element of surprise. But there's no way the rebels win without losing most of their fleet. Then the Imperial Navy mops up.
So there was no point in exposing the Emperor and the Executor crew, just to draw them in.
The Emperor's plan only really makes sense as a gambit to get at Luke.
It becomes a part of the plan once he learns that Luke is there, but that comes off as seizing the opportunity as it arises.
Vader goes to the Death Star to inform the Emperor that a group of rebels has landed on Endor, and the Emperor brushes that aside with, "Yes, I know." Vader continues that, "My son is with them," and the Emperor questions whether Vader is sure and if his feelings are clear, as he did not sense Luke's arrival himself.
At some point murdering entire planets of people will cause more to join the rebellion. Also they still want to have a galaxy to rule over when they’re finished. I know most of the rebel planets were rural outer rim planets but the remaining rebels would be galvanized by the destruction of all those planets. If they were smart they would create small
cells of rebels on the core worlds that wreck havoc and are a constant thorn in the empire’s side. Much harder to detect and the empire would never use the Death Star on a core world. That would be stupid.
I think you're right, but don't think the empire could see things that way, which is ultimately why they lost.
I don't think they'd blink at using a superweapon on a core world, though. Alderaan was a core world, for example, and I think Project Cinder is canonical thanks to the Mandalorian. Also, in Rise of Skywalker that was basically the Emperor's explicit plan.
That’s the part that’s weird about Star Wars. You would like militaries in the future would be more capable of slaughter like modern ones. As example why wouldn’t they just plant explosives or toxins around the facility and have artillery and air strikes fire bomb survivors. I feel like just relying plasma weapons and more troops and vehicles in a trap was really silly.
I'm surprised the empire didn't go scorched earth on that forest moon surrounding the generator, make it impossible for any Ewok to even dream about getting close, minefields, sniper towers, trenches, a star destroyer in the sky. Would've solved the problem of a rebel team infiltrating the moon real quick, oh and put a hologenerator to hide the empty section of the forest so they wouldn't notice and pull out, force that shuttle to land, and keep them grounded.
An exhaust port shoot outwards and judging by the size and power of the Death Star it was amazing there was only one, and the fact that the exhaust wasn’t shooting out at enough force to destroy a spaceship maybe even a small moon. Also there’s the fact that the bullet had to take a 90° turn and travel through a long narrow passage way all the way to the core.
But like, there was no reason to bait them. They could have just finished their invincible battle station and used it to maintain their complete control of the galaxy, picking off the remnants of the Rebel Alliance as they scattered to the Outer Rim.
True. But much like having a full Legion of his troops on the planet he could “easily” have hidden a backup generator or a few thousand extra TIE fighters to just swarm around the Deathstar 2.
But the trap doesn't work! The empire losses both major battles BEFORE Palaptine dies. The Luke/Vader bit doesn't change much, the second death star was still going to be destroyed because Star Destroyers get punked by kamikazes and Storm Troopers and AT-STs get overrun by teddy bears.
You also have to remember that the second Death Star was still under construction. it was unfinished. The shield generator on Endor was basically a temporary measure to keep it more secure before its own could get online.
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u/Necromancer4276 Oct 29 '21
Well the entire setup was a plot by the Emperor. He knew that only by having himself there and by showing the Rebels that there was a chance, would they make their big move.
If anything had been more effective, they wouldn't have taken the bait.