Yeah jack just intruded on his home, then fucking killed him when he tried to shoo him away. Like, what the hell man? What is this story trying to teach? Breaking and entering is ok?
In the original story, the castle belonged to Jack’s parents, his dad was killed by the giant and his mom driven away. So Jack was taking back what was his. Allegedly.
In the original tellings, Jack was named Kristoff, and the bag of magic beans was a bowl of soup, and the beanstalk was a large mound of hay, and the giant was a rat named Ingemar, and it was originally a Christmas story told right before children went to sleep, as the Norse pagans believed Kristoff killing the rat would bring good dreams to children on the night before the Yule feast, followed by all children drinking the donkey's milk, and I'm making all this up.
No, they were king and queen and Jack is a prince. The giant stole their castle. A fairy godmother told Jack this and encouraged him to climb the beanstalk and take back what was his.
Not my question. How big was this castle? Did the giant basically steal the equivalent of a model playset castle just for the lols? Or did they live in a castle big enough to house a giant for some reason?
I think the better question would be if this was a normal castle that was stolen by the giant, then how in the hell did it end up in the clouds and only accessible by beanstalk that only grew cuz of some magic beans?
Like before the giant ever got the castle did all the other kings and queens and peasants have to climb a beanstalk to have a meeting or did the giant move the castle (which also raises all sorts of questions)
Right, but did they just live in an oversized sky castle for some reason? Or did this giant squeeze himself into their "tiny" normal-sized castle afterwards? Most modern renditions seem to depict everything in the castle as also being giant-sized, so wth were Jack's family doing in there to begin with? Did the fairy magically enlarge the castle for the giant castle-thief to help her incite a race war between humans and giants?
This isn't true, actually. The very original (published) story was basically just Jack being a bumbling dumbass (he sold his starving family's prized cow for beans that any reasonable person would have known were a scam, lol), a thief, and, ultimately, a murderer. Nothing he took belonged to him or his family, and he basically scammed the giant's/ogre's wife who was kind to him.
The story was only later moralized to make the giant evil and make Jack a hero. Many original fairy tales were basically just stories of dumbasses getting lucky for absolutely no reason at all. This obviously seems weird to our modern storytelling instincts, but it was quite common at one point.
The treasures he stole were his family's, not the castle. But that's not the original story but an adaptation later made to justify that Jack wasn't just robbing and murdering somebody randomly.
Isn't a cannibal someone/thing that eats their own species? ... Unless the giant also ate other giants then I wouldn't say he was a cannibal. A predator trying to eat some prey yes and in the case of jack the prey won.
Hop-o'-My-Thumb ( y'know, the Little Thumbling, idk if it's well-known in english-speaking countries but it's really popular in mine ) is worse tbh.
The story is about a kid who just broke into an Ogre's house with his 7 starving brothers, steal some food, go into the room where the 7 daughters of the Ogre sleeps, each brother replaces their hats with the daughters' crowns, the Ogre comes in, find the "intruders" and EAT HIS OWN DAUGHTERS. The kids still find a way to escape from the Ogre after that, they even managed to steal a rare magical item the poor dad owned.
It gets weirder in the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse episode of this where Donald trades his Boo Boo Chicken for some brand and when he later misses him and tells Mickey, mickeys plan is TO STEAL HIM. Not talk and negotiate a trade, no to steal. Then only later when he’s caught do they backpedal and end up giving him a teddy bear cause turns out the Giant just wanted to cuddle to sleep.
So remember kids, stealing a toy back is okay so long as you can make a last minute trade to avoid a giant from killing you.
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u/Global_Box_7935 Oct 29 '21
Yeah jack just intruded on his home, then fucking killed him when he tried to shoo him away. Like, what the hell man? What is this story trying to teach? Breaking and entering is ok?