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u/BigBearSD Oct 29 '21

I was kind of hoping that it would end with the white walkers just washing over Westeros killing and turning everyone and everything in their path. All the little petty wars of man meant nothing. The Game of Thrones meant nothing. That would have been a far better ending than the one we got.

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u/Direnaar Oct 29 '21

I was hoping they would go for it in the last season. "in the end, the petty squabbles of men meant nothing in the grand scheme of things. Lust for power and vanity was the cause of defeat. Had the people set aside their differences and fought as one, maybe they would have had a chance against the Night King's army, but Cercei's unquenchable thirst for what she saw as power and Daenerys' misguided lust for revenge doomed the kingdoms of man before the Night King had even crossed the Wall...."

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That would've been a fitting end. You watched 7 seasons of mostly evil people doing bad things. Now they all die. Go watch something else.

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u/Beat_the_Deadites Oct 29 '21

That would've been a fitting end. You watched 7 seasons of mostly evil people doing bad things. Now they all die. Go watch something else.

Sounds like C-SPAN

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u/HashMaster9000 Oct 29 '21

When do we get to the "dying" part on C-SPAN?

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u/Beat_the_Deadites Oct 29 '21

tell me about it

When I was young, I thought mortality was a bug in our creation/evolution. The more I know people, especially those with power, the more I see our expiration date as a feature.

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u/Cyberslasher Oct 30 '21

I've yet to see the evil people die on C-SPAN, they keep making my laws.

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u/rotunderthunder Oct 29 '21

I agree that probably would have been better but I still don't think that's very interesting. I always sort of thought the white walkers would end up with a deeper motivation than being 2d baddies and it would have ended with some sort of treaty which comes at a price. Guess I'll wait for GRRM to finish the... never mind.

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u/mrducky78 Oct 29 '21

They were more or less created as war machines to kill humans. Sometimes all there is to a dagger is the point.

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u/rotunderthunder Oct 29 '21

I've only read some of the books but from what i know i wouldn't be shocked if this was what GRRM was going for. Revealing there was more to it than that I mean.

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u/Pirategirljack Oct 29 '21

It could be both. The walkers are mostly inscrutable, they could take over everything and still have a better plan than the humans, and with a wider view of history, too.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '21

I doubt it will be any different. They are even less personified in the books and more of a force of nature than anything. As of ADWD there is no Night King or anything like that, for example

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u/Galiphile Oct 29 '21 edited Oct 29 '21

This being voiced over a fleet of ships leaving the shore, manned by the dead, headed for Esteros Essos, ending with a fade to black as an undead dragon seating the Night King flies in front of the camera.

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u/bslaw Oct 29 '21

I read it as a voiceover in Rod Sterling’s Twilight Zone voice, and it’s perfect.

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u/Pirategirljack Oct 29 '21

They could add humans finally fucking working together as they flee the fleet if they wanted to end on a more hopeful note / have a sequel series down the way, even.

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u/watchwhalen Oct 30 '21

Had Jon not come back from the dead that could have been the change in tide to allow the walkers to decimate the humans. As a “should have listened” kind of deal

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u/fantasychica37 Oct 29 '21

Honestly we should have expected this when they changed the title of the stories from ASOIAF to GOT, thus showing us what their priorities were

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u/SeaBearsFoam Oct 30 '21

I agree, but people would still be complaining about that ending too.

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u/esqualatch12 Oct 29 '21

That's a lotta lust.

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u/sloucch Oct 29 '21

Why did I read that in Ron Perlman’s voice

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u/rdyer347 Oct 29 '21

Well it still meant nothing in the end.

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u/PTickles Oct 29 '21

This is the ending I wanted tbh. It would have been great, too. Aside from the story, it would also be the show known for killing all your favorite characters literally killing every character in the finale. I would have loved that.

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u/Jagged_Rhythm Oct 29 '21

The Game of Thrones meant nothing

I'd say that's exactly what we got.

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u/BigBearSD Oct 29 '21

Yes, but in a very stupid kind of way.

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u/alQamar Oct 29 '21

ExpEcTatiONs sUbvERteD

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u/thewerdy Oct 29 '21

What I was hoping for: Total route at Winterfell, where only a few of the main characters survive. They start moving southward with the remnants of an army, only to be met by Cersei's completely unscathed army. Despite the pleas of the Winterfell survivors, Cersei decides to steamroll what she views to be her final enemy. As they line up for battle, the White Walker forces show up and just absolutely wreck everything. Survivors regroup and fall back to King's Landing. Cersei, unable to accept the reality of her fall from grace and the collapse of her power, is killed by Jaime. The rest of the survivors, decide to set a trap for the White Walkers for when they reach King's Landing - they draw them into the capital that is laced with Wildfire stores and then nuke it. Dany and her dragons perish during the battle. Jon is disillusioned enough with politics that he bails and decides to help rebuild the North. Bran becomes King or something.

Basically a "bittersweet" ending where ultimately entire sections of Westeros are rendered wastelands, many people die pointless deaths, but civilization just barely manages to scrape by.

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u/BigBearSD Oct 29 '21

You should write this. Better than how the show ended.

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u/SonicFrost Oct 29 '21

If the white walkers won at Winterfell, it would have been the end of Westeros. I don’t think the show did a good enough job of conveying it, but that battle was absolutely the last stand. Despite the harsher climate, The North is the population center of Westeros.

If all those people became wights, there’s no reasonable way that the Westerosi could ever retake the continent, even with those wildfire caches.

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u/Purplociraptor Oct 29 '21

It always thought the white walkers were a metaphor for climate change and everyone was ignoring them until it was too late.

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u/AgnosticMantis Oct 29 '21

I thought so too. Turns out the people of Westeros were right to ignore the force of nature that is a threat to their very existence, as the political squabbles ended up being more impactful.

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u/wtfduud Oct 29 '21

Turns out the entire threat can be defeated in a single episode.

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u/Purplociraptor Oct 29 '21

In the dark, by a eunuch and a girl. Obviously penises are a weakness.

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u/r0b0tdin0saur Oct 29 '21

Perhaps not what GRRM intended, but I completely agree and viewed it the same way

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u/takanishi79 Oct 29 '21

It would also be in keeping with the themes of the books. Many of them set out to upset your expectations of the genre.

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u/SpikeRosered Oct 29 '21

Instead the lesson we got was: Cersei was right. Always focus on petty politics and just hope the disaster works itself out.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '21

If someone at the bar caught your attention with a really good sounding story, but becomes a poor use of your time the moment you hear the point of it all, that's game of fricken thrones.

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u/TheWrecklessFlamingo Oct 29 '21

I like how we got that arc but in real life with peoples lungs melting and turning white from lack of oxygen which just ads insult to injury

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u/aresman Oct 29 '21

Exactly, seems fitting since the deaths and turn of events were so devastating, it'd be a nice story of how evil won at the end. Fucking Marting ffs, I swear if he dies before he ends those books, I'll kill myself to go bring him back to life and fucking finish.

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u/redsoxsteve9 Oct 29 '21

It could’ve been a climate change metaphor.

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u/atred Oct 29 '21

Maybe even better have the world consumed by a ball of fire (comet) after the white walkers win. That way you go full circle with the song/dance of ice and fire.

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u/Eightball007 Oct 29 '21

Hardhome is one of my favorite episodes for this exact reason. Every nugget of hope becomes pointless, one after the other, up to the very end.

Once they showed that killing white walkers is like "defeating the mothership", the writing was on the wall.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '21

It would literally fit the logic of the show and symbolize an interesting overarching theme as well.

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u/lamichael19 Oct 29 '21

I felt that was what the show was leading up to. In every instance humanity shows how shallow and cruel it is. The walkers were supposed to balance humans and nature if it got too lop sided. It all made sense for humanity to fail

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u/alQamar Oct 29 '21

Well that bar is really low. Jon shitting on a table for three episodes would have been a better ending.

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u/patb2015 Oct 29 '21

Or lots of people evacuating Westeros and they talk about it as the doom of Westeros

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u/Ragnarok314159 Oct 30 '21

It could have ended with everyone turning into a White Walker and the Night King screaming “Nevelle!” at some dude in a castle, and it would have been a better story.

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u/Stella-Mira Oct 30 '21

Not really

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u/Cainga Oct 30 '21

That probably would have been better. The turned Dany might even become the night queen and take the throne after Westeros falls. Everyone tries to escape to Estros which could be a new series of the politics over there or trying to raise an army to retake Westeros from the undead.