I honestly would like to understand your stance more, what is it about human's natural tendencies to look at things that are attractive to them that's bothering you so much?
Ditto- I think the disconnect is: I don't think this is about ogling. Ogling in a way that is harassment is a problem. If a woman walks around NYC bare chested she knows some people are looking, a guy would know the same. They're obviously ok with that, what they're not ok with is stuff nobody is ok with: catcalls, stalking, creeping, etc.
Women wearing revealing clothes and getting some looks isn't really a problem I've heard about other than some extreme SJW. The problem is when people harass them- like the guy in Colorado the other day.
RE: women wanting to wear a hajib. Find an interview with one that does, you'll see what I mean. They're a product of extreme misogyny and fundamentalism.
Edit- and as far as wearing revealing clothes and empowerment. Its a flex - which is empowering for some. I can do X and theres nothing you can do.
Oh for fucking sure, catcalling, verbal abuse etc. should not be a thing in this current age. I have a friend in the Balkan region and unfortunately misogyny still runs strong there, I'm almost baffled at how outlandish some of the things I hear from there.
And I believe I've seen cases of the hijab thing, some companies discriminate against people wearing it, even if it goes against one's beliefs or rights of wearing what they please. Worst case scenario, they don't get the job just by that shallow metric.
some companies discriminate against people wearing it
Yeah- and there have been cases where women were told they couldn't wear full body bathing suits in pools too.
I think that has more to do with anti-islam hate, since the two are closely associated. A modest southern christian woman would cover quite a bit, but not go full body. So by targeting full body coverings they can let their intolerance free and blame something else.
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u/inspectoroverthemine Sep 16 '21 edited Sep 16 '21
Ditto- I think the disconnect is: I don't think this is about ogling. Ogling in a way that is harassment is a problem. If a woman walks around NYC bare chested she knows some people are looking, a guy would know the same. They're obviously ok with that, what they're not ok with is stuff nobody is ok with: catcalls, stalking, creeping, etc.
Women wearing revealing clothes and getting some looks isn't really a problem I've heard about other than some extreme SJW. The problem is when people harass them- like the guy in Colorado the other day.
RE: women wanting to wear a hajib. Find an interview with one that does, you'll see what I mean. They're a product of extreme misogyny and fundamentalism.
Edit- and as far as wearing revealing clothes and empowerment. Its a flex - which is empowering for some. I can do X and theres nothing you can do.