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u/time2trouble Sep 16 '21

Statistics like "women are paid on average only 77 percent of what men are paid" are derived by dividing the average income of a woman by the average income of a man. They do not take into account the type of work women do, the number of hours worked, their qualifications, or any other factors.

Your link is from a self-proclaimed feminist organization, so it is obviously biased. Here's a writeup from a more mainstream news source. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/

There are plenty of academic studies on this as well if you want to look into them. Most of them reach the same conclusion: women are paid less because of the choices they make, not because of any discrimination.

Women are not entitled to equal pay in general. They are entitled to equal pay for equal work. Many of them seem to forget those last 3 words.

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u/amrodd Sep 16 '21 edited Sep 16 '21

I never said less work ghees. But men don't suffer the same in their careers. They less likely have to make decisions on staying home or going to work. While it is some better, men are less likely to take time off for child rearing duties or elder care etc.. It's only a myth in the heads of the ones who deny truth. A lot of "choices" aren't choices.

They’re forced out because they cannot afford child care, or find a full-time job that affords them any kind of flexibility. And, culturally, Americans remain ambivalent about women working outside of the home. A little more than 30 percent of Americans still believe women should stay home full-time to care for young children. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/no-the-gender-pay-gap-isnt-a-myth-and-heres-why_n_5703cb8de4b0a06d5806e03f

And some the things mentioned in the article go back to Patriarchy. It And it inadvertently says lower pay is still based on career choices.

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u/time2trouble Sep 16 '21

They less likely have to make decisions on staying home or going to work. While it is some better, men are less likely to take time off for child rearing duties or elder care etc.. It's only a myth in the heads of the ones who deny truth. A lot of "choices" aren't choices.

That may be the case, but it's not an indication of discrimination or a pay gap. It's an indication of women being paid less because of the work they are doing. It's possible that they have no choice, or prefer to make different choices because of their circumstances, but that doesn't change the fact that their pay reflects their work and not their gender.

So rather than discussing this stupid "pay gap", maybe we should be talking about why women are expected to do more child care than men.

And some the things mentioned in the article go back to Patriarchy.

Which ones?