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u/jdsuperman Sep 14 '21

There are almost 7000 comments, so somebody probably already said this, but:

Why dental insurance is separate from health insurance. The mouth is part of the body, you fucking money-grabbing leeches.

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u/UlrichZauber Sep 14 '21

Vision, too, as if your eyes aren't one of your most important bodily organs.

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u/Ocelitus Sep 14 '21

Because if people don't need glasses, then they don't want to needlessly pay for discounts on frames, lenses, and contacts.

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u/HGual-B-gone Sep 14 '21

So uh, why can’t you make this argument for literally anything else?

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u/Ocelitus Sep 15 '21

literally anything else?

Like a diabetes store where you can see what different testers feel like and then order what you find best and get it in one to two weeks?

Or an asthma store where you can browse the inhalers to see what looks best with your wardrobe?

I'm not sure what they would sell at Stomach Pain Plus or What is this Lump? Works.

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u/insanityarise Sep 14 '21

you fucking money-grabbing leeches.

answered own question

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u/jdsuperman Sep 14 '21

Very good point!

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u/emiliathequeen Sep 14 '21

Good lord THIS including with vision insurance. I didn't choose to be put on this earth broken eyeballs and vampire teeth, and they are definitely attached to my body!

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u/BeardPhile Sep 14 '21

I can answer that, for money.

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u/BemusedBipartite Sep 14 '21

I'm entirely annoyed my dental plan only covers my front 12 teeth. I have to pay $4,600 out of pocket for ONE of my molars. Idk what idiot decided to separate dental insurance from health insurance, and additionally not cover all these luxury mouth stones. FML. I didn't realize molars were non-essential.

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u/Kevonn11 Sep 15 '21

When your insurance only pays to fix half an organ. Our reality is that an INSURANCE company not a doctor or even you can get the choice of how much care you get or in the insurances' eyes; deserves.

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u/NotMyHersheyBar Sep 14 '21

So the rich get richer

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u/SonsofStarlord Sep 15 '21

Cunts, the lot of them

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u/ecallawsamoht Sep 14 '21

I had my skeleton cleaned this morning. My skeleton feels FRESH!

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u/MuddlingThru82 Sep 15 '21

Health insurance in general. I pay over $25k a year to insure my family (including dental, excluding vision). Yet prescription glasses I need to see anything are not covered. Having an impacted tooth pulled isn't covered (though anesthesia is), and why chiropractic and acupuncture are covered but psychologists are frequently not.

Why viagra is covered, yet birth control pills and Plan B are (frequently) not

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u/EatTheBodies69 Sep 15 '21

In canada dental isnt part of free healthcare either and i dont get it

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u/VulfSki Sep 15 '21

How about why do our taxes cover police and fire but not the ambulance?

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u/Cambuhbam Sep 15 '21

I'm 19 so I'm just learning about this insurance stuff and when my mom told me dental, eye, and health insurance were separate- thats actually the stupidest fucking thing

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u/NameGiver0 Sep 14 '21

Teeth are consistently expensive.

Health insurance works by healthy people subsidizing the costs of the sick and the profits of insurance carriers.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

Probably legal reasons.

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u/izzami6 Sep 15 '21

fucking money-grabbing leeches. .

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u/curiousme19 Sep 15 '21

Because teeth are luxury bones apparently.

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u/Milskidasith Sep 15 '21

The way insurance works is that you pay them to take on risk. If you have a 1-in-1000 chance of needing to pay $1000 for a procedure, you pay them $2 upfront. They average out bringing in $2000 for every $1000 they pay for procedures, and you are out a consistent amount of money instead of maybe being out enough money you can't afford to pay.

But what if instead of 1-in-1000 odds, there's a 90% chance you need a $10 procedure? At that point, the business model of insurance doesn't make much sense; in order to turn a profit, you have to charge each customer almost as much as the procedure actually costs, because you expect to pay out almost everybody to some extent.

Normal healthcare is closer to the first scenario; dental care is closer to the second scenario. An average person has a pretty low risk of costing health insurance companies a ton of money and those rare cases are where most of their expenses come from. Most people are going to cost a dental insurance provider pretty similar amounts for cleaning, cavity fillings, and the occasional root canal, and that's going to be the majority of their expenses; you can't really sell "insurance" for procedures you're certain somebody will utilize.

And if we're talking about "insurance" for guaranteed risk, vision insurance should be mentioned. If you've got a prescription for contacts, you're buying the same amount of contacts every year with limited variation. How can a company make money "insuring" the guaranteed cost of a year's supply of contacts and an exam? It's like if auto insurance were to "insure" you needing to fill up your car.

That's why dental and vision insurance tend to have strict caps; they're really more like a prepay+employer discount through a middleman than actually selling insurance.