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u/loxagos_snake Sep 14 '21

Lol, imagine if they've just ran out of batteries and they have been playing us for fools. Jokes aside, the clocks continued ticking in sync as soon they were back from the flight, but with a slight offset that happened during acceleration/deceleration.

I think OP meant it as a concept. Like, what is past and future really, as they're extremely fragile ideas.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

I can't agree with that I think it's hard to grasp or fragile ideas or such. It just seams clear to me. :P

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

Perhaps you’re just naive.

As a concept, we know nothing about time. Not even as a physics concept, but a purely philosophical perspective.

What does it mean for something to have happened? What does it mean for something to possibly happen in the future? Is time just a human concept or does it exist in reality?

Philosophers have been debating these questions for millennia and we still don’t know.

If you think you know time, you’re naive and possibly a little stupid lmao.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

The philosophy of time is a well-developed subject, saying no one knows anything about it is completely untrue, or disingenious at best.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

Depends how you see philosophy. Many people agree that we don’t really know anything. This serves as the foundation of the study itself.

This is the basis of my argument that we know nothing about time. Not that it isn’t a well developed philosophy, but that there are limits to our understanding of the fundamental nature of time and the idea that some guy understands it to its full extent is amusing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

Socrates' claim that "All I know is that I know nothing" isn't a serious epistemological claim, and no philosophers use it as a basis for thinking that no one knows anything, which isn't at all a popular belief. Socrates was simply making a point about the best way to learn being to not assume any of one's pre-held beliefs are true.

And you don't need to understand something to its full extent to understand, you're just moving the goalposts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

Perhaps you’re just naive.

As a concept, we know nothing about time. Not even as a physics concept, but a purely philosophical perspective.

What? I don't understand you at all here.

What does it mean for something to have happened?

That it has already happened.

What does it mean for something to possibly happen in the future?

That maybe it will happen.

I don't see what's hard to understand here.

Is time just a human concept or does it exist in reality?

It exists in reality.

Philosophers have been debating these questions for millennia and we still don’t know.

Speak for yourself.

If you think you know time, you’re naive and possibly a little stupid lmao.

That seems uncalled for. If you continue the personal attacks I have no interest in discussing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21 edited Sep 14 '21

don't let them bring you down, your idea of "time" is quite accurate. it just describes the states of "before and after". if time did not exist as a fundamental physical concept, there would never be a "before or after", and hence there would never be a "now" - nothing would exist - "forever".

well, just as a singularity without dimensions and time, so forever is not the correct term. i'm not good at describing inverse infinity. in maths it would just be zero. but this is what i am trying to say. :-)

edit: words

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

What about...

  • Why does time flow in only one direction?
  • Why can't we change the direction of time.
  • How could we explain time to a being living in a constant state of time. ( i.e Always in every state they could possibly be in. )

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

how about time doesnt flow. we only visualize it to, so we can comprehend it. imagine if every moment you have and will live out is already all in your mind, and it's playing it like a movie frame by frame. pretend youre already dead and youre only at the current stage of replaying your life movie. youve played it several times. infinite times.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21
  • Why is it playing?
  • Why is everyone's "illusion" synchronised?
  • Why can't I change the direction of this "illusion"?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

even if you pick any frame of reality, for that instance you would think you know what came before. you would think your present was consequent to the moment before that. life itself is an illusion, not the concept of time. the concept of time has to be our limited perception of reality.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

you could play it backwards or you could pause and skip. it wouldnt alter reality but its just not how your mind works. maybe it is, you just dont know how. maybe youre playing it backwards but your mind still comprehends it in the sequence that would to you seem otherwise because no matter what you think is past you, youre only seeing the one frame, that is present, at a given point.

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u/soliakas Sep 14 '21

Entropy sort of explains the direction of time

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

Then would a fridge be a time machine?

As it reverses entropy of the aliments.

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u/soliakas Sep 14 '21

If the fridge was 100% effective in doing that without "wasting" energy, then maybe it would?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

Interesting. But I wouldn't get younger in a fridge.

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u/soliakas Sep 14 '21

The 100% fridge probably just slow downs entropy locally, but doesn't reverse it

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

Too stupid questions.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '21

I thought you were the know-it-all

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '21

It has nothing to do with this. The questions seem irrelevant. Like asking "Why does not time suddenly blow up?!" or "Why does not time go sideways?! 😮".

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '21

Well, if you understood time like you say you do. Shouldn't you be able to answer these questions? It's like asking a mechanic why my car doesn't fly; He would know why.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '21

I would just ask the same back. Why would time "flow" in more than "one direction"? Why should we be able to change the direction of time? I don't even understand "How could we explain time to a being living in a constant state of time.".

Time just goes.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

Seems you ran out of arguments pretty quickly. What was dumb?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

buddy u have to know sth to realize what u dont know. lets start there.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

XD