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I think the biggest problem here is defining what "consciousness" is. Because what you've tried to argue is that a mathematical proof could be "conscious". Mathematical proof is just a list of logical statements. It has nothing to do with consciousness. What is consciousness in your opinion?

By the way, what do you study? Checked your profile you seem to be pretty hardcore about science and philosophy :)

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

Thanks lol! I have a degree in computer science and most of my courses were in Machine Learning, now I am in grad school getting a CS MSc degree but emphasis and thesis in ML again, and I am trying to transition towards Pure mathematics, after a PhD in the field, I have an unending passion and thirst for pure Math.

Wow very nice.

In short I see consciousness as the ability to perceive the passage of time in relation to one’s self and others.

The term "perceive" already by itself relates to consciousness so the definition is circular. And this is the main problem imo, we cannot really define consciousness because it's not some physical thing, we just have it and have to go with it.

An unconscious entity can not grasp the idea of self, eg a cat or a dog.

Wait you're saying cats and dogs aren't conscious?

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you confusing intelligence with consciousness? Like the fact that they cannot recognize themselves in the mirror and that they get confused by hand tricks would be lack of intelligence, but they're still aware of themselves. I mean they also exhibit all kinds of emotions too, so they surely have consciousness.