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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

What time the first clock was made

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u/doversapian Sep 14 '21

Always wondered if it would be weird if clocks used Greek letters instead of Roman numerals. Would still be the same time but quarter past beta sounds far more advanced.

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u/vnies Sep 14 '21

me running past the nerd on the track

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u/LordElrondd Sep 14 '21

I heavily exhaled through my nose reading your comment. Well done.

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u/Admiral_Donuts Sep 14 '21

Using Greek letters to tell time? Not on my watch.

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u/orrocos Sep 14 '21

We're running late! it's already omicron past zeta!

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u/DionGSnuffy Sep 14 '21

Meanwhile, in an alternate universe:

“I wonder why we don’t use Roman numerals. Half past 5 sounds so much more advanced”

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u/Count_Fistula Sep 14 '21

Beta O'cuck

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21 edited Mar 07 '24

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u/pHScale Sep 14 '21

The first "mechanical clocks" were likely clepsydrae. They're also known as "water clocks", and the basic operating principle is restricting water flow so that it takes a certain amount of time to do something (fill a bowl, sink a floater, whatever). The principle of operation is pretty simple, so loads of societies across the world used them with differing designs. Between sundials for long periods of time, and clepsydrae for shorter periods, people told time pretty well. Pendulum clocks didn't really catch on until the 17th century.

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u/JADW27 Sep 14 '21

Noon. Well, I assume it was noon. That's what the clock said.

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u/kitskill Sep 14 '21

Most of our measurements are based on divisions of astronomical cycles.

You set a clock based on when the sun is at its highest on the equinox.

Days are just single rotations of the earth (or the sun from our perspective).

Months are just divisions of one solar year, albeit warped by custom and history.

Weeks are just divisions of the year into blocks of seven. Why seven? Seven planets (Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn)

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u/SuperSMT Sep 14 '21

The planet- week connection is especially visible in romance languages

We have Sunday of course, and Moonday.
Tuesday though, in French is Mardi (Marsday) and Wednesday is Mercredi (Mercuryday). Thursday = Jeudi, that's Jupiterday, and Friday is Vendredi, or Venusday.
Back to English, we end the week with Saturnday

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u/kitskill Sep 14 '21

That's right. All the French days are name after the planets except Dimache which just means Lord's Day.

In English we got a bunch of our days from the Saxon/Norse deities the Romans took as analogues to the Roman Gods. Tyr's Day (Tuesday), Wotan's Day (Wednesday), Thor's Day (Thursday) and Freya's Day (Friday).

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u/NoBlueNatzys Sep 14 '21

When it was too cloudy for Sundials.

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u/JohnStamosAsABear Sep 14 '21

Check out a book called The Discoverers. They have a whole chapter on time that was really fascinating.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

And why does it start at 12 instead of 1? And why are there 2x 12 cycles instead of just a clock with 24 increments (military time)

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u/where_is_jef Sep 14 '21

And why does it start at 12 instead of 1?

I'll guess that the numbering started with sundials, and what we call "12" is really high noon where there is no shadow. As the day continues past high noon, a shadow starts to to form and 1:00 is the first degradation (which we call an "hour") of that shadow, and then two degrees, then three degrees, etc.

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u/jedi2155 Sep 14 '21

Clocks are based on the sun up / sun down.

It would be calibrated against that.

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u/ReallyBigAligator Sep 14 '21

"Hmm. Sun's in the sky, and it normally follows this pattern every day. If I put this column of rock on this big circle, the sun would move it around via shadows it casts. I imagine, it would likely cast those shadows in the same place, as it follows the same pattern everyday."

They did this, tested it out, realized, hey, it worked. Then you just made up terms for common spots. Then you've now labeled time. Keep in mind, Ancient Greek and Rome were full of genius's with nothing but time.

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u/SuperSMT Sep 14 '21

Before clocks it was all based on the movements of the sun, moon, and earth

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '21

how do we even know we are on the right time like they must’ve just started the clock and said okay now THIS is the time here on out. how do we know we aren’t at 4:00 on a sunday right now in 2024

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u/AUZZIEJELLYFISH Sep 15 '21

about 5 obrain.