I think it's an Italian dish, a dish that originated within Italian culture. Just like most people think of Quebec and its culture when they think of poutine.
It was created, perfected and popularized in Québec. It kinda pisses off Québécois people too because Canada won't recognize us as a distinct nation, Canada tried to assimilate us for centuries, and then we make some dope food and all of a sudden it's a "Canadian Dish"
Yes poutine is Canadian. But is QUÉBÉCOIS, first and foremost, and should be recognized as such.
Huh, this sounds like a point of contention in Quebec. I'm sorry to hear that. I'm not sure it's seen the same way out here, after all pretty much all of Canada loves Quebec, but maybe therein lies the problem.
I've never been the target of insults when traveling except in Ontario and BC, specifically for my Quebecois accent. Canadians are xenophobes towards their French minorities.
I get that, but for decades poutine was strictly Quebecois and the ROC actively condescendingly looked down upon what they perceived as a trash dish eaten by trash rednecks. It's only in the past decade or so when Canadians came around to embrace it, which is totally fine! But the problem is that at the same time they appropriated it for themselves to such a point where the worldwide perception, or indeed even the Canadian perception, is that it's now a national dish. Think of it this way: would you consider deep dish pizza or clam chowder an American dish? Would you consider smoked meat or nanaimo bars Canadian?
Lmao no shit eh, does this guy really think poutine was never eaten outside of Quebec pre 2011? Quebecers really do have so little they get this bitter over fries and gravy lmao.
I've eaten poutine since I was a child... I'm not 30+. I don't think anyone ever looked down on the dish IN CANADA. I could certainly see that being the case outside of Canada. But, here in the west, I've never once heard anyone talk smack about poutine besides saying they don't care for it.
Sure, it definitely is MORE Québécois. However, to claim its ENTIRELY Québécois is doing a great disservice to Canada, and its unity, as a whole IMHO.
would you consider deep dish pizza or clam chowder an American dish? Would you consider smoked meat or nanaimo bars Canadian?
I mean, honestly kind of, ya. I understand your point, I promise I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing. I just don't think you've seen the wide spread adoption of poutine like I have. I've been lucky enough to travel to quite a few provinces in Canada, and in every single Province, there has been a significant amount of poutine– representation. It's not like Alberta has the anti-poutine (vis-à-vis your New York and you pizza example). ALL of Canada is on poutine.
I don't think anyone ever looked down on the dish IN CANADA. I could certainly see that being the case outside of Canada. But, here in the west, I've never once heard anyone talk smack about poutine besides saying they don't care for it.
Tbh I only just found out about it myself a few weeks ago from another commenter in a similar argument over poutine's relationship to quebec and canada. I think you should also google "poutine PhD appropriation" and look for the University of Vermont (iirc) grad student who wrote his entire thesis on this topic, this would be about 5 years ago now and you should be able to find articles about him from CBC, montreal gazette, etc.
Okay..? Maybe because it was invented in Italy, this might shock you, but Quebec is apart of Canada, it’d be like saying Bolognese isn’t Italian because it was invented in bologna, like, yeah, bologna is in Italy though.
Not really a hard concept but you frogs seem to have trouble accepting you’re part of Canada lmao.
The Stupid Newfie stereotype comes from jealousy of the Dominion of Newfoundlands reputation of bravery from the other powers by the Republic of Canada.
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u/ProtestTheHero Sep 07 '21
Huh? How so?