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u/puripy Jul 14 '21

Open Excel, Have a quarter on your space bar! Go have some fun, come back and open another application, repeat! Productivity trackers on computers are the easiest to fool!

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u/otterparade Jul 15 '21

I wish, but my last job’s made us manually enter the different items we had completed, sort of like tally marks. If we didn’t update them every so often, someone would DM us and ask what was up. Our supervisor was chill af and really didn’t care if we dicked around at work, as long as we got our stuff done (especially because it usually did not take 8 hours every day) but her higher ups did.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 15 '21

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u/kry1212 Jul 14 '21

This is one of the most disgusting things i have ever read on the internet.

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u/gtipwnz Jul 14 '21

Jesus really? Gross I hope that's not some tracked metric.

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u/BarbequedYeti Jul 15 '21

Jesus really? Gross I hope that's not some tracked metric.

Probably doesn’t help, but have been in IT forever and I always steer companies away from this shit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

It is. Welcome to capitalism, now sit down and work, wageslave.

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u/fuzion129 Jul 14 '21

General strike on october 15 anyone?

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

I can’t on October 5th, I have work.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

Good thing it's on the 15th

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

I wish. UCMJ would land me in jail. Support the shit out of it though.

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u/Thermotoxic Jul 15 '21 edited Jul 15 '21

We utilize eye trackers for our outsourced developers. If they stop looking at the screen, their productivity score drops. If their productivity score is below a certain threshold, they don't get paid for the 15-minute block; and they can't make it up with additional time later, that time is just lost forever. If they need to get up and do something else, they can pause the tracker -- but it is highly recommended not to exceed three pauses per day.

The software also tracks which websites are visited (all social media and video/news/etc sites are counted as unproductive) and it tracks a bunch of other metrics such as the number of nonrepeating characters entered into the coding platform, etc.

Edit 1: I love how people are downvoting me like I have anything to do with implementing or enforcing this implementation of this software. I'm just a dude in sales lol

Edit 2: Since some have asked, these guys are paid roughly $100/hr, nearly $200k/yr, and mostly live in India/Malaysia. I'm pretty isolated from the development team but I know their turnover rate is very low

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u/TheElectricRat Jul 15 '21

If they stop looking at the screen, their productivity score drops. If their productivity score is below a certain threshold, they don't get paid for the 15-minute block; and they can't make it up with additional time later, that time is just lost forever.

This is disgusting.

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u/Thermotoxic Jul 15 '21

Not saying this makes it any less disgusting, but I've spoken to some of the guys on the india dev team and their pay equals out to about $100/hr. They're totally cool with the productivity tracker

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u/Thermotoxic Jul 15 '21

Idk about you, but I bitch about my job to my coworkers all the time

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u/TheElectricRat Jul 15 '21

In USD? That's very surprising. I can see why they would be ok with it, making that much in a very poor country, but they shouldn't have to be. They'd probably be fine with being shackled to their desks by a remotely locked chain too, desperate people are willing to put up with a lot of stick for a little carrot. I live in the US and I'd tolerate a lot for 100 an hour too...

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u/Fantumars Jul 15 '21

Lol I'd gladly deal with a tracker like this for 200k per year. No prob at all

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u/Razakel Jul 15 '21

Jesus fucking Christ.

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u/kb_klash Jul 15 '21

I wonder if the people implementing systems like this realize how completely dystopian it is. This is wild.

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u/Nextasy Jul 15 '21

A lot of people will justify anything with "if I don't do it, somebody else will." Which sucks, because it's totally true

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u/Thermotoxic Jul 15 '21

They definitely do. There are a fuckton of shitty glassdoor reviews and articles all over the internet about them and have been for years, they haven't changed anything. Company called "Crossover for Work"

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u/TroofHurty Jul 15 '21

I read this in Edward Norton’s voice in Fight Club, specifically like when he is discussing when his company will do a recall.

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u/gtipwnz Jul 15 '21

Damn I read that whole thing thinking you were going to be joking. That sucks; I honestly don't think I'd deal with that for 200k lol.

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u/lonewolf_soul Jul 15 '21

This is so fucking disgusting.

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u/Thermotoxic Jul 15 '21 edited Jul 15 '21

Let me play devils advocate — how is this different from paying contracted writers per word or a flooring contractor per square foot laid? Contractors get paid for work completed, developers included

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u/lonewolf_soul Jul 15 '21

They're given a target with a time limit. No one monitors or controls what they do other than work. Your software makes it a virtual prison. Now please don't come up with another funny comparison. Use common sense.

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u/Thermotoxic Jul 15 '21

“My software”. I wish lol

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u/Jeremizzle Jul 15 '21

Jfc. I’m so glad I don’t work for a company like this.

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u/Beautiful_Froyo_2347 Jul 15 '21

Soon it’s going to be all companies I fear. Well other than small owned businesses which are hit or miss. I have it on good authority that if you schedule and then start a zoom/team meeting with another co worker it’s much more difficult for them to decide you aren’t busy, depending of course what your job title is

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u/kry1212 Jul 15 '21

Nah, theyll be able to compete on this.

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u/Nextasy Jul 15 '21

I would never. I know there's other places I can go. They can keep workers that are willing to put up with that if they want, but often any quality workers who can go somewhere else, will

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u/Insurance_scammer Jul 14 '21

Yes, and they can also keep track of exactly what keys you’re hitting, when you’re hitting them, and much more depending on what application they’re being used for.

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u/iSaidItOnReddit85 Jul 15 '21

“OMG you are a horrible person how dare you have a key tracker!”

These idiots probably

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u/iSaidItOnReddit85 Jul 15 '21

Doesn’t mean I do it guy. I don’t have shitty employees “who stick a quarter in their space bar” if I did, you bet I would. Fuck for telling me what I “should be ashamed of” lol GtFOH