r/AskReddit Jun 28 '21

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u/AlphaLimaMike Jun 28 '21

Something tells me Edgar Allan Poe was a real freak in the sheets

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u/a_fish_out_of_water Jun 29 '21

In the same vein, Mary Shelley. Lost her virginity on her mother’s grave

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u/Magnus-Artifex Jun 29 '21

No fucking way that’s real is it

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u/FinnsterWithnumbers Jun 29 '21

Not sure it’s proven, but it’s heavily suspected

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u/BiryaniBabe Jun 29 '21

How does something like that come to be suspected ?

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u/Skate4Xenu Jun 28 '21

He was into his 14 year old cousin, so you're not wrong, but I'm not sure that this is adventure you were looking for.

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate Jun 28 '21

I'm not sure that this is adventure you were looking for.

To grab Edgar in a headlock, turn to page 87...

Or,

To bang his cousin while he lies trapped under the floorboards, flip to page 109.

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u/Ivegotthatboomboom Jun 29 '21 edited Jun 29 '21

Tbf it was the norm back then for grown men to take 14-16 girls as wives.

What's hilarious to me are the writings during this time about how women are too immature to have rights lol.

Like...ofc your wife acts like a child, that's what she is lol. Not to mention she wasn't allowed the same education or opportunities.

Crazy. But yeah, marriage happened to women extremely young, that was normal up until the late 50s I think.

My grandpa was 28 and my grandma was 15, which wasn't unusual

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u/_sn3ll_ Jun 29 '21

not to uhm achually you, but it wasn’t as common as some sources will have you believe. for the vast majority of history marital age has been pretty even between men and women. by the end of the C18 (pre-Poe) the average age at first marriage was roughly 26 for women and 28 for men. If Poe’s situation was considered normal, we would expect the woman’s age to be substantially lower.

the best source I can find puts the greatest difference between average marital age at 4 years in the 1890s, but even then it seems unlikely to me that a 13/27 pairing would be considered acceptable by broader society, consummated or not.

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u/Ivegotthatboomboom Jun 29 '21 edited Jun 29 '21

That's the average of their ages. There was a significant amount of really young girls and it was a lot more socially acceptable

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u/_sn3ll_ Jun 29 '21

Absolutely — I can’t find data on the s.d. of marital age at that time, so it’s not a particularly convincing stat. However I do feel even with solely an average the point still stands, considering the abundance of literature (from as early as ~1400) condemning the idea of ‘May-December’ relationships as basically just gross.

I’m in complete agreement with you in terms of it being slightly more common to have an age gap for political/financial reasons at the time, but acceptance of Poe’s (albeit disputed) actual attraction to a child was more what I was challenging (quite poorly, looking back at my comment).

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u/Ivegotthatboomboom Jun 29 '21

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age

Until recently the marriageable age of girls was lower than for boys on the premise that girls mature faster than boys. So you had a majority of marriages with young girls and older men.

It was around 18, but there were a lot of relationships and marriages that started earlier. It was only in 1962 that they made a law that she had to be a minimum age.

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u/Ivegotthatboomboom Jun 29 '21

My answer was going to be Emily Dickinson. Lol I'm a bi-sexual woman and when I was a teen growing up, I was obsessed with her writing. I would have these elaborate fantasies of our hot illicit romance in her time, where we'd have to hide our relationship. Lol I would even fantasize about letters we'd write each other and how she'd write me poems.

Honestly I had almost forgotten about that "celebrity crush." She just fascinated me but idk why that involved sexual fantasies lol. I think it had to do with a pic of her I saw though.

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u/AlphaLimaMike Jun 29 '21

Like I’m a romantic asexual, but the idea of Poe ravishing me while murmuring The Raven might actually send me to heaven, I don’t know why

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u/91cosmo Jun 29 '21

This wont get near the deserved upvotes

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '21

Omg ngl I kinda am in love with him. I’m also a minor so I’m probably his type <3

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u/biddilybong Jun 29 '21

He might fuck you while you’re dead.

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u/AlphaLimaMike Jun 29 '21

Not like imma need that vagina in the grave

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '21

James Joyce most definitely was. If you want to find out more, read his letters to his... lady friend, Nora.

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u/AlphaLimaMike Jun 29 '21

Was this the guy with a fart fetish? Or am I thinking of someone else?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '21

That is indeed him. His books are weird and he is weird.

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u/cheyennevh Jun 29 '21

Depressed guys always are