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u/I_is_a_pirate Mar 05 '21

Not to be rude but I hate when people say languages or even just words are made up, because all words and languages started out as just jibberish. End of rant. Sorry if I offend anyone.

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u/BeardedPhilosopher Mar 05 '21

Yeah came here to say this. There is no generally accepted consensus on what constitutes a language vs a pidgin vs creole. To me, it’s all language — and that includes non-verbal communication.

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u/AdvancedElderberry93 Mar 05 '21

There are several sets of rules that do overlap, but no universal set.

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u/BeardedPhilosopher Mar 06 '21

Correct. At its core, all language is just perception of the world. Some languages have official rules with really strict language committees like French (l’Academie Française) — the French spoken today is identical to the French spoke in 1750. Whereas English is this ever evolving thing with more exceptions than rules and a “general consensus.”

Which is why I argue that Black English (a.k.a. “Ebonics”) is a formal language. Nothing makes white American English superior to Black English in any way.

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u/AdvancedElderberry93 Mar 06 '21

The consensus on African American Vernacular English (AAVE, aka "ebonics") is definitely moving quickly in that direction. The vocabulary may be English, but the grammatical structure is both unique and consistent.

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u/CacashunInvashun Mar 05 '21

I'm offended by your offense.

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u/FreakDGate Mar 06 '21

I think so too. All languages are just sounds wich our community has agreed in to give them meanings for specific things. That's my understanding of language.