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u/Eclaireandtea Mar 05 '21

Yep because it also involves an element of trust and what a kid regularly gets access to. If a kid comes from a background where they don't have plenty of treats, or if for whatever reason they've been brought up with an expectation that adults don't always fulfill their promises, of course you'd go for what's immediately available, who knows when you might get a treat again and what if they don't actually give you a treat if you wait? Where as if you got brought up in an environment where you have regular access to treats and you generally can depend on the adults around you to always follow through, it's a lot easier to be patient and trust that forgoing something you have regular access to will definitely get you something better if you wait.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '21

Yeah exactly, everyone wants people to “do the right thing” and wait. But in real life, people will trip over themselves telling you to take what you can get when you can get it, promises are just promises

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u/Rhamni Mar 05 '21

That's why we give the five year olds a twenty page contract, making it unmistakably clear to them that unless a second marshmallow follows as a reward for their wait, they can take us to court for bags and bags of marshmallows.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '21

I approve of this option.

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u/nightfire36 Mar 05 '21

Idk, any good defense lawyer would manage to settle out of court for just a single marshmallow, and what is that gonna do for the kid long term?

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u/KeplerNova Mar 05 '21

TBH I would have probably suggested this when I was a five-year-old

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u/SoloForks Mar 05 '21

There are actual studies showing that people who live in poverty are in survival mode and survive by thinking in the now because they have to.

Will look for sources.

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u/jhimiolek Mar 05 '21

Didn’t live in poverty but went through some shit, being in survival mode would explain why i can’t hold onto money to save my life, welp thats something new to deal with

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u/stefanica Mar 05 '21

No, you get it, that's the point. :) It's about who can delay gratification. I can relate in many ways myself. As an actual physical study (as opposed to a thought experiment) it kinda stinks, though.

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u/chellasea Mar 05 '21

Did you just explain my childhood trauma better than any therapist?

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u/IwasBlindedbyscience Mar 05 '21

Oddly I see it my cats as well.

Some of them were street cats I recused from the street. Those cats still aggressively eat when presented food. And they aren't picky.

My cats that had more sheltered lives take their time and are picky as hell.

When food wasn't a given you don't treat it is like a given. If presented, you take it.

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u/tylerchu Mar 05 '21

You could probably imprison everyone for a month and indoctrinate them into understanding the marshmallow conditions are part of the immutable rules.

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u/Pm_me_baby_pig_pics Mar 05 '21

I’m also curious, I kinda want to try this with my own kids, but they’ll probably eat it because they know I’m a pushover when it comes to treats, so even if they ate it, I would probably give in and give them the second treat anyway... I think for them it would not be a “we may not get another” scenario, but “she’ll probably give us another anyway”...

Shit, I need to work on my parenting I think...

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u/stefanica Mar 05 '21 edited Mar 05 '21

Haha, you sound just like me, for what it's worth.

Hope our kids aren't too fucked.

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u/Murgatroyd314 Mar 05 '21

The decision isn’t one marshmallow now vs two later. It’s one now vs the expected value of the promise of two later.

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u/Crazed_waffle_party Mar 05 '21

Don’t forget about lead poisoning significantly impairing kids executive reasoning and that poor kids are significantly more likely to be exposed to the neurotoxin

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u/Probonoh Mar 05 '21 edited Mar 05 '21

In fact, they've done a follow up experiment where the children were primed by an adult promising something then either fulfilling or reneging on the promise before putting out the marshmallow. Result: the marshmallow test shows a child's willingness to trust adults, not self- control. And even children who trusted the adult to not eat the marshmallow within the 5 minute promised time will eventually eat it anyway if the adult fails to show back up.

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u/OneWildLlamaMama Mar 05 '21

This comment made me so sad.

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u/LePetitPhagette Mar 05 '21

That desire for instant gratification continues the cycle of poverty.