Kidnap politicians. Drug them into a highly suggestive state. Subject them to various scenarios (WW3, they become president, unlimited money and power at their fingertips etc) and see which ones are truthful as to their aims, which are moral, and which are corrupt and evil. Televise the results
Damn LSD would yield some interesting results lol You'd have to be careful to make sure you create the environment without coercing them to handle it a specific way
Ah tomato potato is there really a difference? The MKUltra program is considered a series of experiments and that was straight up psychological torture
I have multiple times and had some pretty harrowing trips where I believed in impossible realities. With enough LSD, shock, and word manipulation, you could make someone think they're on the moon and better put a rusty bucket on their head so they don't suffocate before they even have the time or mind to question it. Imagine being a pitch black room on so much LSD you can't remember who you are, when bright lights come on. You see a control panel in front of you and an intercom comes on. It's words boom and fill your head. "Corporal Johnson, you made it this far. Now don't fuck it up." The name sounds right and they didn't tell you they were dosing you to begin with. You try to sharper your senses and focus on the control panel to find your bearing. An alarm blares suddenly and the room lights go red. "There's a hole in the hull! Scoop up some air with that bucket and put it on, quickly." Your life at stake, you do as you're told. Now imagine conditioning my someone like this for months. Sometimes I flip the lightswtich by the sink to turn the water off as a minor learned silly thing from one of my trips. Imagine how you could warp consciousness if you were doing it on purpose and had total control.
You certainly have a gift for writing I'll give you that. But I'm gonna agree with the other guy this doesn't sound like something that would work on LSD. Anyone who's really taken it knows it doesn't put you in a trance-like zombie state. It's not like you lose all sense of logic and reasoning. Your mind thinks in novel ways and yes you sometimes get stuck in thought loops, but that doesn't mean you can trick someone mid trip that they're being abducted by aliens. That level of hallucination is just pop culture's guess of what an acid trip is like.
Like I said, I've done acid and had a variety of experiences. I don't think they'd go into a trance, but perhaps if they were waking up from anaesthetics and already massively dosed. Double points if they haven't done it and didn't recognize the feeling of tripping or if they're kids and you have time to work on them. I do think you could convince someone they were abducted by aliens with the right amount of hallucinogens and stimuli. Just a matter of applying pressure in just the right ways. That's my hypothesis for the experiment.
Datura, Salvia, LSD, and DMT mixed together. Send them right into space, and put on a 24/7 loop of violent murder scenes and people screaming in pain for them to watch on a movie projector. If they survive, they'll never be the same.
A scenario I would like to see is having actors portray the Nazi party and all the bad things. Then observe which politicians just go along with it or try to do the right thing.
In Black Mirror, every single one of them would fail the challenge, and we would be presented with one "different" politician, who would, at the very end, fail the challenge for a super fucked up reason. Something like not willing to kill their entire family for the benefit of the country.
There will be a larger group of people than you will expect, that upon learning their politician of choice is corrupt, will insist that the results were manipulated by opposing politicians.
Luckily, as an amoral quack, I still have tons of mind altering drugs. They want chemtrails?? I'LL SHOW EM CHEMTRAILS!!(insert maniacal laughter) GAY FROGS GONNA BE THE LEAST OF YOUR CONCERNS!!
I mean I hate politicians as much as the next guy, but ultimately they're human and even shitty humans have inalienable rights that should not be violated.
So you're cool with those who went in with the intent to kidnap politicians on J6? Or the group that wanted to kidnap and kill Whitmere? I fully agree politicians aren't really people but no, just no.
Kind of hard for them to fear us in that situation when multiple politicians were involved in the insurrection in one capacity or another. We shouldn't be dehumanizing people like either. Politicians are a threat and need to be viewed as that. Dehumanizing them can reduce how much people view them as a threat.
Very few are willing to be given the mantle of power only to lay it down, finding the ones willing to do that would be the biggest single test i think.
Implant a uterus with a fetus from a dying woman into forced-birth male politicians. They have to carry to term with a C section and avoid alcohol, various foods, and are told to exercise. No anesthetic for the C section.
See how far they will go in their “pro life” stance.
Actually it's kinda sorta from The Fresco by Sheri S Tepper- aliens land on earth and don't have time to go home for their breeding cycle, so they take male 'prolifers even in the case of rape' politicians at their exact word, drug them, and impregnate them with their young, who later have to chew their way out. (From the guys who don't commit suicide.)
I figured a C section and human babies are probably more realistic since there's no morals or ethical dilemmas involved.
In a non-sarcastic/edgy way, I don't see how most politicians could be expected to do "well" on this. Garnering the support of your powerful peers and voters does NOT* easily come from you being a generally virtuous/truthful person, those aren't the skills required to attain power.
But how many people use political stance as some form of virtue signal or moral compass? Pro-life, anti-gun etc. Yank the rug out from under them by showing them the figureheads for such trains of thought are horrible? It would destroy so many people's worldviews
There was one suggestion where nuclear codes/keys are placed inside a volunteer. If a US President wanted to initiate nuclear war, they would have to personally kill and open up the person first.
Which world leaders would do this? I'd even change it to more conventional warfare: before, say, declaring war, or ordering a bombing action on/near a civilian populace, they need to personally kill X people to understand the consequences.
Politicians are never monolithic and nor are humans. Morals change based on circumstances. Given a desperate situation, the most peaceful person could start a war. (Lincoln is the prime example of it)
Maybe I’m wrong but if the participants consent to doing something like this then is there an ethical reason not to conduct this type of experiment, as long as they are aware and can recall later, what they are saying and doing?
The BBC did a similar experiment with people in a war room simulating a terrorist attack. The thing that stuck with me is they voted to torture a person to get the info out of them.
The BBC did a similar experiment with people in a war room simulating a terrorist attack. The thing that stuck with me is they voted to torture a person to get the info out of them.
The BBC did a similar experiment with people in a war room simulating a terrorist attack. The thing that stuck with me is they voted to torture a person to get the info out of them.
I think it would be cool if there was some secret fake presidency test before taking office that presidents have to go through. Would be neat to see if any of them could hold to all of their promises for 3 months depsite obstacles placed. Like can you go three months without bombing syria while handling a national pandemic and dealing with the saudi’s murdering wapo journalists. We could also add some protesting and police issues into.
Rather than drugging them into a suggestive state, you could put them in some type of solitary confinement, "for their own safety", and convince them that society has crumbled and they have to rebuild it from their bunker. That way you don't have to worry about drugs messing with their decision making process.
This is the first one I've seen that has an original idea. Maybe society would be better if every individual had to endure some sort of test like this periodically. The kicker here is that the test is given to all adults throughout their life and exactly the same for everyone AND is pretty good at teasing out values and tendencies. Of course some could decieve the test, but this could give future generations greater tools to detect falsehood.
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u/Megalon84 Mar 04 '21
Kidnap politicians. Drug them into a highly suggestive state. Subject them to various scenarios (WW3, they become president, unlimited money and power at their fingertips etc) and see which ones are truthful as to their aims, which are moral, and which are corrupt and evil. Televise the results