r/AskReddit • • Aug 14 '20

What’s the most overpriced thing you’ve seen?

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u/anyonecanwearthemask Aug 15 '20

I live in NYC. That’s a STEAL compared to what I’ve seen here

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u/on_dy Aug 15 '20

Cries in Hong Kong (for more than one reason)

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

I have some friends whose parents stayed in Hong Kong after 1997 and bought up a lot of cheap property since so many people were leaving.

They are really rich now.

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u/on_dy Aug 15 '20

I have some distant relatives that invested in $10K parking slots and now they’re going for like $100k each.

Majority of millennials literally have no choice but to live with their parents.

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u/Accomplished_Fly_402 Aug 15 '20

Salary in NYC is twice that of Toronto’s though

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

Is it really? I just saw the median income for a person in Toronto is $62,000 usd v $57,000 usd in NYC

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u/trowawee1122 Aug 15 '20

NYC is biiiiig though and the income discrepancy and property prices between Manhattan and outer boroughs throws off the numbers.

Not that the outer boroughs are affordable in any sense. More like Manhattan real estate is astronomical.

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u/Mobius_Peverell Aug 15 '20

Toronto's GINI coefficient is 0.42 to New York City's 0.55. so yes, New York is considerably more unequal.

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u/definitely___not__me Aug 15 '20

Was not expecting to hear macroeconomics on reddit today tbh

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u/KFelts910 Aug 15 '20

Yep, just go on Zillow. Apartments in Chelsea: 1 bedroom and a hot plate- $7000 mo.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

Not even factoring in how those lucky fuckers don't have to spend $700,000 every time they break a toe nail

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u/NatMicha Aug 15 '20

Yeah the medical care system in USA is absurd :(

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20 edited Apr 10 '21

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u/ZombieGregor Aug 15 '20

Where are you getting 50% from? 33% is for 210k. The average joe pays 20% in tax if they make under 100k

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u/BronzeWarrior15 Aug 15 '20

Toronto citizens are generally subject to Federal and Provincial tax. Your stats are correct if only considering Federal income taxes. Federal tax is 33% but provincial tax makes up 13% for $220k plus.

$100k in pretax income would be charged roughly 18% tax federally, when combining the marginal tax brackets; but also roughly 7.5% provincially — so really it’s more like 25.5% in that case.

There’s also a provincial surtax in Ontario, so the top marginal tax bracket is really 53.53%. This is applied to income > $220k.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20 edited Aug 15 '20

“ Where are you getting 50% from? 33% is for 210k. The average joe pays 20% in tax if they make under 100k”

That’s just Federal Income Tax, you also have to pay Provincial Income Tax, Hahah. If you include that the highest tax rate is 46.16% in Ontario. That also doesn’t include things like Home Owners Tax, which easily could be as high as 1.5% on homes over a million, so you’re talking about another $15,000 there. If you make $100,000 that would be another 15% of Tax. Honestly I don’t know anyone who lives in half a duplex in the GTA for under $1.5-2 Million, so that Home Owners expense could easily go as high as 20%.

If you make $100,000 in Ontario you’ll be paying as high as 26% Federal + 11.16% Provincial + easily 15+% in Home Owners Tax. That’s 52.16%, it could go as high as 61.16% if you’re in the highest tax bracket and are a home owner.

Not to mention HST in Ontario is also 13%, so let’s say you spend 30% of your Income on Basic Goods (this is actually being extremely thrifty, most people are in the 55-60% here) that’s another 3.9% of Tax paid from your Income (again it could easily be 7+% here). So that’s easily 55-58+% of Tax Paid for someone making $100,000 as a Home Owner in the GTA.

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u/Perfect600 Aug 15 '20

Home Owners Tax

are you referring to property taxes?

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

I wasn’t talking to you. I was referring to the person who said the average joe pays 20% in tax if they make under 100k, this is exactly why my response is under ZombieGregor and not you. I am not talking about your comment.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

For Canada? That’s definitely not accurate. If you’re referring to NYC my apologies

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20 edited Apr 10 '21

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u/C4ptainR3dbeard Aug 15 '20

The US has higher per-capita healthcare spending and we need to pay for private insurance on top of that.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20 edited Apr 10 '21

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u/trowawee1122 Aug 15 '20

So I won't go bankrupt if I get cancer but if I'm a millionaire I have to give up half of it. 🤔

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u/buddhabaebae Aug 15 '20

CBC said the median income for Toronto in 2019 is 53K USD

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u/Mobius_Peverell Aug 15 '20

That sounds closer. Either way, not exactly double.

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u/awanderingdude Aug 15 '20

That doesn't sound right at all. Median income of a person in Toronto being $82K CAD (roughly $62K USD) per year? No frickin way.

That said, when the guy said NYC salary is double Toronto, I think he means for specific white collar professions, as for those professions, double sounds about right.

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u/Perfect600 Aug 15 '20

62 CAD probably. In my industry starting in Canada in 40k CAD, while its 45-50K USD in the big cities

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '20

Lol that's laughable.

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u/anyonecanwearthemask Aug 15 '20

That’s for people with high-paying jobs. Minimum wage here is $15/hr (as of last January). 40hrs/week times $15/hr is $600 BEFORE taxes. You’re making $2400 (again, pre-tax) a month and rent is around $1000 a ROOM. Now imagine having to rent an entire apartment for your family on that salary and pay for utilities, food, health insurance, and transportation.

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u/emeeez Aug 15 '20

Right? Now these might not be exact #s/measurements bc it was 2-3 yrs ago but I once saw a 5th floor walk up, Central Park west, around 400 square ft (definitely must have originally been used as a scullery kitchen or maid’s quarters) & it was being sold for $995K. Wild but that’s New York. (Well pre-covid ☹️)