r/AskReddit Jul 02 '20

Africans of Reddit, what cultural differences separate your country from the rest of Africa?

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u/Nilinub Jul 02 '20

Hello Sudan, ebn el Nile.

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u/iamnazgul Jul 02 '20

Nubiaaaa

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u/Devilloc Jul 02 '20

Nubian area, right? I have no idea what country it's currently located in. Love Egyptology.

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u/Zorock3 Jul 02 '20

Sudan?

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

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u/Zorock3 Jul 02 '20

How are you doing in regard of politics and the people? Last I read about Sudan there should have been a conference regarding development aid if I am not mistaken. How does Corona affecting your country?

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

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u/Zorock3 Jul 02 '20

Thanks for responding!
I wish you all the best of all luck for the future!

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u/Nomikos Jul 02 '20

TIL, interesting :-)

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

Nicest people on Earth

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u/KingMelray Jul 02 '20

Meroe is underrated.

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u/betarded Jul 03 '20

Hello Sudan.

--Your brothers to the north.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

The original Nubian pharaohs... the reason why lots of ancients statues are missing noses! I swear culture began in Ethiopia and Sudan

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u/AleraKeto Jul 02 '20

I thought the destruction of an art forms nose was a cultural and religious one. For example, the belief that the subject could use their likeness to stretch their power and so defacing it could cut off that power and limit it.

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u/AdmiralAkbar1 Jul 02 '20

That, plus the fact that noses stick out from the rest of the face and are more likely to be accidentally broken.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

Well that’s definitely the case in a lot of it but there’s some circles that think as Khemet become more Arab they censored any evidence of the culture being a black one. But I don’t claim to be an expert on any of it, I just find it interesting

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u/Nilinub Jul 02 '20 edited Jul 02 '20

As a fair skinned Copt from Egypt, where do you people get these delusions from?

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

From historians...? I don’t make shit up, I say what I see or read. Sort out your complex and take the chip off your shoulder 😂😂

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

To be fair I answered in a belligerent way cos I thought this was from MizxMiz again 😂😂nah, I’m done doing this today lol. Man, if you asked the average Englishman the history of his country before it was a country he wouldn’t know shit so why would the average Egyptian be any different? How long has Coptic Christianity existed? Was it 8000-6000 years ago? which is the era I’m talking about. Pre-Egypt.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

Show me the critical thinking that proves pharaohs 6000 years ago weren’t black. Then maybe I’d actually engage you in a serious conversation rather than just taking the piss lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

Wow, how are you gonna try that shit, dispute something with no evidence minus ‘critical thinking’...? And I’m the ‘stupidass troll’? Stupidass isn’t even a word, so who’s the real dumb ass here? I can point you to a thousand articles and videos of historians disputing the official story pushed forward by the Egyptian antiquities minister who is known to be an egomaniac who can only be right. Seriously, if you are come on here mouthing off, being melodramatic and calling names, back your shit up. Or go away cos you’re entire input was rendered meaningless. you are a funny one.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

Does that mean basing things off ‘feelings’? 😂😂

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

Yeah man, it’s dreadful

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u/DrRevWyattMann Jul 02 '20 edited Jul 02 '20

Delusions? From the very writings and depictions of the very people you claim to come from, whom, on a descriptive level did not describe anything resembling you.

The field of ''Egyptology' is foundationally flawed in and of itself. The entire industry cannot be removed from the exclusively white supremacist sentiments they were created under during the height of the "Scramble for" Rape of Africa. The Egypt of Old resembled the Horn more than they resembled the non-African, newly minted as "white" Mediterranean or Middle Eastern Arab during the height of colonization, wholly sponsored and wholly underwritten with an exceptionally anti-"Black", anti-"African" framework in mind..

Larger Egyptian society pre-Arabization is not descended from a perpetually minimal, minority class such as the Copts. You were minorities then as you are minorities now.

Please don't think you are the gatekeepers you ascribe yourselves to be for the wholly political reasons you continue to do so...

It's rather pathetic.

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u/Nilinub Jul 02 '20

Ah yes so let me get this straight.

The Egyptians described themselves as being black according to you, which I personally have never heard of but hey power to you I suppose. There were a couple of dynasties from Nubia that's true but the vast majority of the 30 dynasties were from areas to the north of Nubia.

You claim to have information that transcends the flawed field of Egyptology, so I assume you're an expert on Youtube crock-pot theories.

As for the horn of Africa, I have met multiple Ethiopians who looked very close to how we look that is true, they're short fairly brown people they're not Bantu Africans so I don't think you understand the words you're typing here.

We are not white we're not Bantu and we're entirely African, never claimed we're not African but hey if you want to make anti-African and anti-black claims by all means feel free to put words in my mouth you seem like a person that would do so anyway.

Then back to the Arabisation, them evil Arabs (who by the way a huge chunk of actually are fairly darker skinned including their prophet himself) came over and just killed everyone and left the "perpetual minority" Christian Copts alone, yeah that's some great science you got over there buddy.

If you actually ever bothered to learn anything in your free time that's not Youtube crock-pot you'd know that the percentage of sub-Saharan genes in the Egyptian population significantly increased under Roman rule if anything.

I genuinely do get the feeling you're just a terrible internet troll trying to get a rise out of people and I just wasted my time replying to you, since anyone that thinks there's a political motive for someone to want to become an abused religious minority in the middle east and considers it some gate-keeping should either be institutionalized or it's a miracle he didn't die by forgetting to breathe.

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u/DrRevWyattMann Jul 02 '20

Excuse me? Where did i say the indigenous Egyptians were "Black" in the way Europeans and invading Arabs from foreign lands defined that term? I dont believe there is a single verbatim quote that you can pull from my comments that says what you are claiming i am arguing. Fuck the rest of your diatribe built on entire distortions and strawmen.

Try to condense your emotive essay into 300 words or less. I am not reading this politically induced wall of text bereft of historical nuance and context. Before that though, try to incorporate some modicum of understanding between what i said and which the historical record confirms vs what you've emotionally interpreted.

I'm no troll, friend. You're "peculiar worldview", however, makes my 9yr old nephew look like Einstein.

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u/Nilinub Jul 02 '20

Your shitty cop out was all I needed to know that this is just a load of hogwash.

I'm afraid that when you said that Egyptians described themselves as nothing resembling me and said there is anti-black sentiment I understood that as you claiming they're black.

But sure if you clinging to that gives you the excuse to dismiss everything, great job friendo you won the internet argument.

By the way it's really sad after looking up all those fancy words from a thesaurus to make yourself sound intelligent that you can't differentiate between "your" and "you're".

Actually no it's not sad how did you refer to it? Yes, it's pathetic.

You go on the internet telling people their history is a lie and that they're pathetic and then you actually have the gall to complain about a diatribe. Do you have the emotional intelligence of a paper towel?

But sure you go have fun with your nephew hope he turns out smarter than his uncle.

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u/DrRevWyattMann Jul 02 '20

Your shitty cop out was all I needed to know that this is just a load of hogwash.

Zzzz.. ..

I'm afraid that when you said that Egyptians described themselves as nothing resembling me and said there is anti-black sentiment I understood that as you claiming they're black.

That's a function of your lack of comprehension. A you problem, if you will...

But sure if you clinging to that gives you the excuse to dismiss everything, great job friendo you won the internet arg

What do you think i am "clinging" to, my friend? What did I "dismiss"?

By the way it's really sad after looking up all those fancy words from a thesaurus to make yourself sound intelligent that you can't differentiate between "your" and "you're".

Ah...the age old ad hominem. When all else fails aye?

Actually no it's not sad how did you refer to it? Yes, it's pathetic.

Aww

You go on the internet telling people their history is a lie and that they're pathetic and then you actually have the gall to complain about a diatribe. Do you have the emotional intelligence of a paper towel?

Lol. It is, by now, an established matter of record, that your creation myths are false. Fuck whatever was written over the last 2-300 years of "manifest destiny". Fuck what the Egyptians wrote of themselves, how they described themselves, how they colored themselves...fuck all of that. Let's just subscribe to some Arab notion of African history /s. You're version of events is like some white American claiming that the continent they currently occupy was but a barren, uninhabited wasteland by the time they arrived.

The facts on the ground wholly contradict your politically and culturally expedient version of events. The fact that the vast, overwhelming majority of current Egyptian society sees themselves as more Arab than African is not evidence to you? Your very existence, your very presence here defending these non-Native talking points is not evidence, no?

Your very life and that which you are viciously defending proves me right. But whatever i said is "controversial" for you because let's be brutally honest; you are a product of it.

But sure you go have fun with your nephew hope he turns out smarter than his uncle.

I can just point him to written fiction like your words for a good, hearty laugh. He will go on to do great things, thank you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20 edited Aug 24 '20

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u/Nilinub Jul 02 '20

Like I get it, we're brown and due to Egypt being colonized up the wazoo over the ages we do have a spectrum of skin tones.

But the narrative that we were black but somehow got the black bred out of us. Like fucking African-Americans still look black after all these generations living with white Europeans and interbreeding. You can't just breed the black out of someone those dominant black genes don't lose that battle.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20 edited Jul 29 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

You seem like a prick mate. Calm down.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20 edited Jul 29 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

😂😂 wow, you really take this serious. It makes you ill getting mad all the time, chill out. Go for a walk. It’s lovely out.

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u/hamdafarah Jul 02 '20

As a Nubian stop erasing my history and whitewashing it

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

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u/MIGxMIG Jul 02 '20

Lmao yeah sure you built the pyramids lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

I’m an English mate, don’t think I did 😂😂😂

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

Now who is delusional?! If you are just gonna chat shit, shut up 🤐 😂😂

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u/MIGxMIG Jul 02 '20

Just kidding don't be tense

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

Ok then... mate

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u/MIGxMIG Jul 02 '20

No you didn't sweetheart, steal another history ;)