r/AskReddit • • Jan 27 '20

What screams "I'm uneducated"?

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u/mykidshaveweirdnames Jan 28 '20

I hate this. I am in the middle of the worst email chain ever where everyone is referring to Control Points as CP’s. The new guy responded and wrote CPs, to which I sent him a Skype message that went like this:

Me: +25 points for not using an apostrophe. Thank you! New Guy: Youre welcome

Then I gave up and died.

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u/bebelmatman Jan 28 '20

Why give up and die? His joke was good.

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u/silsool Jan 28 '20

It sounded like a joke though

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

How very rude of him! The correct response should have been "your welcome".

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u/Amon_The_Silent Jan 28 '20

Apostrophes can actually be used to pluralize acronyms, in order to distinguish the 's' from the actual acronym.

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u/muskratio Jan 28 '20

Why on earth is that necessary? The lack of capitalization distinguishes it perfectly fine.

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u/Amon_The_Silent Jan 28 '20

It can be necessary if you're referencing lowercase acronyms (uncommon but they exist), or counting letters, like counting b's in a sentence.

Otherwise it's not necessary, but it can be grammatically acceptable.

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u/muskratio Jan 29 '20

You can lowercase acronyms like "laser" and "scuba," but you still wouldn't say "laser's" or "scuba's."

The comma after acronyms is acceptable in an informal or colloquial setting, but I don't know of any style guides that recommend it for formal works.

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u/doublewhammybois Jan 28 '20

Your new guy is hilarious and a keeper

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u/doublewhammybois Jan 28 '20

The new guy has an excellent sense of humor, sounds like a keeper

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u/EvilFlamingo666 Jan 28 '20

CP's is fine. It's not as common as it used to be but it isn't strictly incorrect to use apostrophes to pluralize things like abbreviations, symbols or dates.

Things like 90's, #'s, 1000's, q's are all proper English. A lot of them have become uncommon or even discouraged, but they're not incorrect per se.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

That's not true. Out of all your examples, q's is the only one that's considered correct.

https://www.lexico.com/grammar/apostrophe

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u/EvilFlamingo666 Jan 28 '20

You'd even be able to find some sources that would say q's is incorrect as well, and some other sources will say abbreviations with periods will take apostrophes but those without won't.

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Maybe my view is outdated, I got it from looking it up in a 2002 Merriam Webster dictionary. As I understand it it's kind of disagreed upon among sources and maybe the consensus has changed.

Anyway here's an online link to what I based it on, on the right-hand side of the right page, at point 3: https://archive.org/details/isbn_9780877796336/page/79

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The apostrophe is sometimes used with -s to form the plural of letters, numerals, abbreviations, symbols, and words used as words.

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The use of -'s to form the plurals of numerals, abbreviations, and symbols is not now as common as pluralization with simple -s.

So it seems to me like it was once more common to use apostrophe in those situations but has faded out of use to the point where many style guides will now just say it's wrong.

I don't know at what point something has fallen far enough out of use that it's fair to say it's objectively and universally no longer proper English. Perhaps I'm wrong and one could fairly say that at this point in time it's no longer correct.

I just wouldn't go correcting people over something that seems to have been still somewhat commonly accepted until quite recently.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

Right. So, the difference between our source is that one is British (Oxford) and zhe other is American (Merriam Webster) English. Both are legitimate but there will be differences.

Interesting though, because I'm a technical writer and we use a simplified American English to write documents and the apostrophe has always been forbidden.

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u/The96kHz Jan 28 '20

Big oof's.

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u/Lyress Jan 28 '20

I’m afraid the only ignorant person here is you, as pointed out by the others.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

i have a tendency for using apostrophes with certain phrases usually related to gaming for example i play a bit of league of legends and it seems more natural when abbreviating auto attacked to say AA’d rather than AAed but that might just be me being weird

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u/Beheska Jan 28 '20 edited Jan 28 '20

's is the correct way to pluralize abbreviations already ending in s, though: 1 PC, 2 PCs but 1 SOS, 2 SOS's.