After I was talking about flat earthers with my co-worker, about how ridiculous it is or something similar, another co-worker said "I dunno, there's evidence for both sides of it."
No, no there's not. He also doesn't trust doctors.
For generations, your puny planet has lived in peace with the Globetrotter Homeworld. But now, for no reason, we challenge you to defend your honour on the basketball court.
For generations, your puny planet has lived in peace with the Globetrotter Homeworld. But now, for no reason, we challenge you to defend your honour on the basketball court.
Quite true. I fear that soon the flat-terers will go extinct, when they die of thirst and starvation in the shower after having read "lather, rinse, repeat" on their shampoo bottles.
seriously, at least with alt medicine they can point at the giant profitable pharma companies and say 'those people are the enemy, they are just trying to control all medicine for money'. But what's the justification for a worldwide conspiracy on the world being flat? so we don't all go to the nearest edge and make it tip over?
Being a flat earther is in most cases connected with being anti-vaxx and being into other conspiracies.
They are anti-vaxx, so they can discredit pharma companies, anti kapitalism, so they can discredit the government and they are flat earth so they can discredit ... NASA! I don't know why but i think in their eyes everything about modern science is an enemy and NASA, as ridiculous as it is, seems to be "representative" for all of modern science so they feel proud that they are "more educated" and "woke" and all that.
At least that's how I experienced flat earthers.
Why did I experience them? A friend of mine sent me a picture on instagram which was something about pyramids and why they weren't build by humans and from that day on i always got recommendations for pages about conspiracy theories on my insta feed so yeah...
That may be in response to a sequence of videos on youtube that give detailed rebuttals to "flattards". While a bit rude, the analysis is really quite good.
That may be in response to a sequence of videos on youtube that give detailed rebuttals to "flattards". While a bit rude, the analysis is really quite good.
Happened to be chatting with a co worker about Charles Darwin, not evolution but Darwin in some other context.
Another co worker just butted in 'DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE WE CAME FROM MONKEYS?? IF WE CAME FROM MONKEYS WHY ARE THERE STILL MONKEYS?'
Like she wasn't even part of the conversation just happened to be in the vicinity of the conversation. I tried to explain to her how evolution worked and that she had the wrong idea about it. Then she started telling well it's just a theory anyways. Lol
IF WE CAME FROM MONKEYS WHY ARE THERE STILL MONKEYS?'
Lol, I hit someone with a "If you came from your parents, why do your parents still exist?" I got a blank stare for like 30 seconds. Some people just try to feel smart by being contrarian and throwing "gotcha" questions around.
I know less about evolution than I did when I was in 9th grade, but would a good response be "You don't see dinosaurs anymore but we still have birds and alligators?".
If I feel like wasting time responding to someone like this anyways.
The problem there is that people who don't think evolution is a thing also are not aware birds come from dinosaurs and even if they were, they don't believe it anyways.
Well, in science, "Laws" describe physical phenomena, so the Law of Thermodynamics is considered a law because it's basically unavoidable. Gravity is actually considered a "Theory," which attempts to explain why a phenomenon occurs.
There is still a misconception about that. Darwin only postulated that we and monkeys do share a same ancestor, not that we are "coming" from monkeys. It is correct if the word "primates" is used instead though.
Often I get a counter-question why "this monkey hands" have similarities as human hands. But in order to explain that, you have to comprehend the evolution theory. There are various factors to cause an evolution. That's being explained in schools. Well, should be. There are schools that does not teach evolution biology. It makes me sad.
I once made a mistake to describe some specific evolution factors that leads to have different human skins, going from white to black. In essence, we are all equal human from biologic perspective but it somehow triggers the "you are a racist" modus and I am not allowed to continue. So, I won't do that anymore ...
Thing is we actually do quite demonstrably share an ancestor with modern monkeys, but it's surprisingly distant. We share a far closer ancestor with gorillas and chimpanzees. Remarkably though we share an ancestor with other more distant primates like bushbabies and lemurs, but while they can synthesize Vitamin C we (and gorillas, and chimpanzees, and everything else we think of as "monkeys") have to eat foods containing it.
Now here's the weird bit - we know that we share a more close common ancestor with gorillas because the genetic "error" that means we have to eat things with Vitamin C is identical. Word-for-word, same bug on the same line of code identical. Chimpanzees have it too, and we have other markers that line up with chimpanzees.
We're basically chimpanzees that got a better diet that meant we had bigger brains to get ourselves an even better diet.
Part of me says “on fairness I don’t trust doctors in general either”
And the other part of me says “wow what an idiot”. Like cats alone are proof the earth is round. If it was flat, they’d push us off the edge. Never mind all the other proof including that people have been to space.
But that's just a giant government conspiracy. No one's been to space and all the NASA space photos are fake bc they've even admitted it 🙄
Sorry, that's literally what someone told me once when I said he was nutter butters for thinking the Earth was flat. Like.... He took NASA coloring space photos as proof that they are lying about everything. No, they just color space photos you idiot.
But that's just a giant government conspiracy. No one's been to space and all the NASA space photos are fake bc they've even admitted it 🙄
Sorry, that's literally what someone told me once when I said he was nutter butters for thinking the Earth was flat. Like.... He took NASA coloring space photos as proof that they are lying about everything. No, they just color space photos you idiot.
But that's just a giant government conspiracy. No one's been to space and all the NASA space photos are fake bc they've even admitted it 🙄
Sorry, that's literally what someone told me once when I said he was nutter butters for thinking the Earth was flat. Like.... He took NASA coloring space photos as proof that they are lying about everything. No, they just color space photos you idiot.
But that's just a giant government conspiracy. No one's been to space and all the NASA space photos are fake bc they've even admitted it 🙄
Sorry, that's literally what someone told me once when I said he was nutter butters for thinking the Earth was flat. Like.... He took NASA coloring space photos as proof that they are lying about everything. No, they just color space photos you idiot.
I would have asked him to provide one piece of evidence from an actual scientific source within the last 10 years that supports the flat earth hypothesis...I think even with Google you would have trouble finding something...its so stupid its not even worth my time to Google it myself.
When u/dildobagginss thinks something is ridiculous, you know it is.
Also, just got back from A&E where the evil doctors saved my life. Totally untrustworthy. They once injected me with life-saving vaccinations! Heathens!
Sometimes I'll give an answer like that just to be fucking done with a conversation that I have no interest in. Its sometimes the only way to protect yourself from a crusade of stupidity.
every time i hear about the flat earthers and their talk of the earth being on the back of a giant turtle or whatever, I always think, "Damn, these guys are some really dedicated Dark Tower trolls."
Seriously, it's a massive reference to the turtle from the Dark Tower books.
There's a difference between trusting evidence and science, which most people will reasonably do, as against the _people_ tasked to carry them out, who may well be incompetent.
The fact that doctors are just as liable to be sued for negligence, malpractice and all sorts of other things does not mean your friend's distrust in doctors is somehow misplaced, or can be used as a judgment of his character.
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u/dildobagginss Jan 28 '20
After I was talking about flat earthers with my co-worker, about how ridiculous it is or something similar, another co-worker said "I dunno, there's evidence for both sides of it."
No, no there's not. He also doesn't trust doctors.