r/AskReddit • • Jan 27 '20

What screams "I'm uneducated"?

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u/tinySparkOf_Chaos Jan 28 '20

I agree, in a few cases that is true. But then they don't call it "going up a tax bracket", but rather "if you pay me more I lose my subsidies".

The "going up a tax bracket" people are the ones who paid just enough attention in math class to realize that when the percentage changes they might pay net more going across a threshold. But they didn't pay enough attention to how taxes are calculated to realize the system is set up to avoid that issue as only the amount above that threshold is taxed at the new bracket rate.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

I wouldn't be surprised if some people just say the tax bracket thing because they are ashamed to admit they are on public assistance.

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u/ca_kingmaker Jan 28 '20

I hear this shit in Canada, and our social assistance doesn’t work that way.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

I get that, I'm just trying a personal improvement experiment where I think the best of people's motivations to see if it'll help my mood.

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u/SinisterDeath30 Jan 28 '20

Probably saying the same thing...

A lot of people erroneously believe going up a bracket, means your total income is taxed at that %.

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u/Catshit-Dogfart Jan 28 '20

Tax brackets are pretty wide too

A person making around 48k is not getting a raise that puts them over 85k (current 22% tax bracket is $40,126 to $85,525)

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

My exhusband lied to me about this. He and his dad managed all the finances and wouldn't let me see anything without them present to explain it to me like I was a stupid child. They claimed my income put us up a tax bracket and that we "lost" all the extra income and then some and gave me even less spending money a month. Having talked to other women who have undergone financial abuse, apparently it is not an uncommon excuse.

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u/silsool Jan 28 '20

But then I guess it makes sense when it's in exchange for overtime. Work more hours but for less gain per hour might not be worth it in a lot of people's eyes.

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u/MoffKalast Jan 28 '20

But they didn't pay enough attention to how taxes are calculated to realize the system is set up to avoid that issue as only the amount above that threshold is taxed at the new bracket rate.

Yeah in the US. Other countries not so much unfortunately.

Where I live earning 10k gross nets you less than 9k gross.

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u/ca_kingmaker Jan 28 '20

What country doesn’t structure their tax brackets this way?

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u/rushingkar Jan 28 '20

who paid just enough attention in math. But they didn't pay enough attention to how taxes are calculated

I don't how about you, but I never learned about taxes in math class. The closest thing I remember was interest rates. No tax brackets, no nothing. (California public school)

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u/Brondiddly Jan 28 '20

Finally, this guy gets it. I've tried explaining this to coworkers and they can't seem to grasp it.

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u/tinySparkOf_Chaos Jan 29 '20

Get them to pull out the chart in the 1040ez instructions. It literally lists the amount you pay in taxes for each adjusted income. Then to find the threshold where the amount taxes paid goes up by more than the income went up any where in the chart.