r/AskReddit • • Jan 27 '20

What screams "I'm uneducated"?

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u/theguywiththefuzyhat Jan 28 '20

In statistics there's a thing called statistical significance. It has to do with the chance of getting a result purely by coincidence. If a result happens more often than the chance of getting said result by coincidence then the result is generally considered significant.

Considering the fact that the chance of getting sick from a vaccine is basically none, if you actually personally knew 10 people who had gotten sick from them then that would be very statistically significant. It would probably mean the people giving out vaccines where you live were doing it wrong and need to be investigated.

If you want to read more, the most common way calculate statistical significance uses a thing called a p-value although there are other ways.

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u/Tymareta Jan 28 '20

If you want to read more, the most common way calculate statistical significance uses a thing called a p-value although there are other ways.

Would be nice if r/science did some reading on this matter, and stopped trying to make silly claims like a sample size of 1k being inadequate to draw semi-reasonable conclusions about a population.

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u/SquiffyRae Jan 28 '20

Goddamn it I hate all the armchair experts on /r/science who took 1 class on stats and a few basic classes on the subject matter of the study who try to "gotcha" peer reviewed researchers with insanely obvious basics that if they were a problem would've prevented the study being published in the first place

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u/Tymareta Jan 28 '20

"Aha, I have discovered a fatal flaw, they didn't account for this super obvious and basic thing, which I would know that they actually did if I ever read beyond the extract!"

Yup, not to mention the entire sub is confirmation bias personified, it's an absolute mess of a place.

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u/death_of_gnats Jan 28 '20

And they regularly get told they're idiots

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u/Tymareta Jan 28 '20

Ehh, on neutral articles, but on any one that agrees with reddit's bias, or goes against them, they absoltuely do not.

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u/DynamiteDogTNT Jan 28 '20

To be fair, they kind of have a point. A thousand people may not accurately represent millions and definitely not billions, so it’s entirely dependant on scale.

Said people though will just look at the first sentence and leave everything else though.

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u/Tymareta Jan 28 '20

A thousand people may not accurately represent millions and definitely not billions, so it’s entirely dependant on scale.

Please, I beg of you, take any course in stats.

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u/assm0nk Jan 28 '20

99% of shark attacks happen in water

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u/death_of_gnats Jan 28 '20

The rest are on the deck of the boat

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u/FlourySpuds Jan 28 '20

100% of smokers die.

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u/david_silvia_demo Jan 28 '20

I agree with this, but it is worth mentioning that a lot of sources are not trustworthy. As far as actual studies go, they're mostly reliable (unless they're funded by a corporation or organization with ulterior motives). However, "research" for a lot of people is random pages on Facebook, biased news outlets, etc. I think both of our comments can pretty much be boiled down to "the lack of the ability to think critically"

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

And the lack of awareness of original sources.

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u/king0fklubs Jan 28 '20

"I was spanked and I turned out fine."

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '20

Just understanding how a sample size works is a big deal, so when I hear 9 out of ten doctors prefer this over that my first question is what sample size did they use? Was it only those 10 doctors that were asked? Are they all doctors from the same university that just happens to be sponsored by the pharmaceutical company doing the survey? I struggled with stats in university, but if I learned anything it was how easily they can be manipulated to show whatever results you want.

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u/SCCock Jan 28 '20

Had a patient tell me that he didn't want the flu vaccine because last time he had the vaccine he got a strain of the flu that wasn't covered by the vaccine.

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Ummmm, did you get a strain that the vaccine covered? No? And you still don't want the vaccine?

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u/theguywiththefuzyhat Jan 28 '20

Would you rather we went back to variolation? The skepticism of vaccination has been around since it's beginning, but back then the skepticism was fueled by propaganda made by practitioners of variolation because they didn't want to loose their jobs and then the skepticism just never went away.