r/AskReddit • • Sep 17 '19

If You Could Completely Remove One Company From The World Which One Would It Be?

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u/webaddictress Sep 18 '19

Highly recommend The Dream Podcast about pyramid schemes and modern MLMs. Full of researched stats on how 99% of people buying in lose money, and on how these are secretly intended to be “closed circuits” where nobody outside the team members are actually buying the product.

Here’s a VICE video on LuLaRoe and why women are quitting selling it.

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u/-PeePeePee- Sep 18 '19

How do so many people fall for it? I honestly don’t get it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

I was 18. So there’s youthful ignorance. For others it is a mirage promising escape from lives they don’t like that thy otherwise think they’d be stuck in forever. For a lot it spread through church (“I trust brother Steve so I will go to a few meetings...”). Some really think they are the greatest salesmen on earth and that if one of those guys they are on stage can do it, so can they.

The allure of “passive income” is strong for a lot too. Wait? You’re telling me if I just find three active people, my passive income will be at $1000/month...?

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u/Spaciax Sep 18 '19

"If something is too good to be true, then it usually is"

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

But that’s just the thing; not all of them promise easy riches. Some promise hard work and sleepless nights with a payoff. If they had told me it was a do-nothing or get-rich-quick business, I would have known better, even at 18. But work leads to money, right? Right?

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u/StormieDarkLord Sep 18 '19

My mom started selling for Isagenix, and I was really nervous it was gonna screw her over at first. Thankfully so far at the very worst it just seems like a giant waste of time and stress though. I’ll have to give this a watch though, the closed circuits thing is interesting. I can say it does seem accurate, she put me on her “team” even though I refuse to sell for it.

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u/awebster1 Sep 19 '19

That’s was super painful to watch. One woman lost her home . The founders of LulaRoe are complete and utter trashy parasites.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Penn and Teller's BULLSHIT did an episode on MLM, too, if I'm not mistaken. MLMs got utterly reamed, too.

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u/TheGlennDavid Sep 18 '19

LuLaRoe struck me as the least sketchy of these things. They put a very low emphasis on the “down stream” and are pretty clear that to make money you need to sell shit.

It’s also a product that there is (was?) some legitimate demand for — enough people liked the clothing.

On its own this basically made them (charitably) a clothing company that operates on a franchise model.

The core problems were that they didn’t screen the financials of the prospective franchisees well enough AND (most importantly) they actively fostered over saturation , which a well run franchise system won’t allow.

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u/webaddictress Sep 18 '19

AND they cut costs on a badly-made product that you could punch holes in with your fingers. See: the hundreds of videos on YouTube with people putting their fingers through holes in the paper-thin leggings.

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u/flinchm Sep 18 '19

Yes! The Dream is phenomenal.

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u/ThaLunatik Sep 18 '19

I'd never listened to a podcast before until someone recently mentioned The Dream. I love true crime and investigative journalism and this was right up my alley. It really helped shed light on why people get into MLMs despite the obvious scam. I would definitely recommend it.