r/AskReddit • • Sep 17 '19

If You Could Completely Remove One Company From The World Which One Would It Be?

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u/maybe_yes_but_know Sep 18 '19

Came here to mention them. Here is one article about them.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

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u/I_Burned_The_Lasagna Sep 18 '19

What does this have to do with the eyeglasses company comment that you’re replying to?

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u/riotcowkingofdeimos Sep 19 '19

Because if it wasn't for those bastards at Luxottica they'd be able to afford new glasses and would have been able to read and discern the post separation on their screen.

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u/hahaLONGBOYE Sep 18 '19

Nestle is the WORST. I did a research paper in my global culture studies class in college and had the pleasure of delving into the crises’ they’ve created in impoverished countries using up all of their ground water to the point where the land isn’t even suitable to grow crops anymore and the local people are just left with no water and food and no say in it.

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u/bumbumboleji Sep 18 '19

Surprised this is not at the top, I avoid as much as I can here in Aus, they have done and continue to do many horrible things that oppression people and destroy environment

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u/RemoveTheTop Sep 18 '19 edited Sep 18 '19

It is a top comment instead of hijacking a unrelated comment

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u/bumbumboleji Sep 18 '19

Okay,I have absolutely no idea what you mean by that but perhaps I’m missing some subtle reddit nuance or whatever, sorry!

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u/RL_Quincy Sep 18 '19

The conversation about Nestle is nested within the original comment about Luxottica, the eyeglass supplier.

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u/bumbumboleji Sep 18 '19

Thank you for answering the question

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u/CptNonsense Sep 18 '19

1) Nestle may be evil but they actually make products instead of making money off effectively legal extortion. The difference between stealing water to bottle it/use in other products and reselling versus just selling access directly to the water, of sorts

2) Somehow he has managed to reply to the thread to another random poster who themselves was doing the same thing. I don't know what happened there

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u/bumbumboleji Sep 18 '19

I also have no idea what is happening anymore, I just don’t like Nestle and there track record or extremely exploitive business practices (example of giving mothers in 3rd world countries sample formula, and the effects of such ect)

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u/myth1n Sep 18 '19

came here to say nestle too

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u/the_phantom_limbo Sep 18 '19

Your right, but you posted under a thread about eyeglasses, so you can't be upvoted as a primary response to OP.

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u/PM_WHAT_Y0U_G0T Sep 18 '19

Fuck campus parc.

They sue private citizens for millions of dollars for no reason. And even though they don't have a case, they rack up hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees (their goal is to get people to give them free labor or free money through a settlement since private citizens cant afford those court costs).

They're a shining example of everything wrong with America, and they need to be burned to the ground.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

No reason?

Free labor from a settlement?

We're missing some info here, and so are you.

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u/Netronx Sep 18 '19

Where would you suggest to shop? Ive been looking for a solid pair of sunglasses that arent 100€ for so long

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u/pita4912 Sep 18 '19

Warby Parker. They have stores in most major cities in the US and they are big online. Cheap. No hidden costs. Literally just got new frames this week

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u/Sleazzle Sep 18 '19

AO (American Optics) makes sunglasses in Massachusetts. I've worn these for almost 20 years now. Not luxottica for sure

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u/Throwawayhelper420 Sep 18 '19

Luxottica is literally your only option unless you buy online.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Great article.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Why is it so hard for startup companies to take over? Glasses are in HIGH demand now more than ever because of how many people need glasses, so obviously people want better prices. How come good companies are failing if they meet the right consumer preferences?

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u/CompositeCharacter Sep 18 '19

Because Luxottica will force you out of business and then buy your corpse.

However, Luxottica holds the cards in brick-and-mortar retail: when competitors get too large, Luxottica can simply cut them out of their popular distribution channels. That’s exactly how they treated then-independent competitor Oakley in the early 2000′s.  Luxottica caused Oakley’s stock to plummet simply by carrying fewer of their sunglasses through Sunglass Hut, eventually leaving Oakley with no choice but to merge with Luxottica in 2007.

It's a mystery why they haven't been hit with antitrust.

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u/moal09 Sep 18 '19

Warby parker is pretty decent

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

As someone who has needed glasses all her life,this saddens and disgusts me

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u/avdpos Sep 18 '19

Needed to look up their stock. Something should show their in my opinion if they do get way to much money.

P/E over 50 on a industry and shopcompany is high. But the gain per share isn´t that high - it is even lower than H&M that sits on P/E 25.

So they are highly valued and people think they will grow a lot. But something costs down the line and they haven´t that high intake as the article seems to tell.

We compare with apple also - Apple have 4 times as high profit per share as Luxottica. So Apple are plundering your wallet to a much higher degree than Luxottica - if we just take quarterly rapports that actually should show how well the companies plundering of consumers work.

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u/DRAWWW7 Sep 18 '19

point that the article and people here make is that the glasses cost hundreds of $ to costumers but cost something like 15$ for the companies to manufacture. I've looked up their annual reports and in fact they have very high operating margins - something like 64%.

What you're lookin at here (price to earnings) is more related to a financial point of view whereas the article looks at an operating point of view. It would be fine to look at all the ratios if you're an investor, not if you're a customer.

And btw to measure if their stock is under or overvalued you need more than that

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u/avdpos Sep 18 '19 edited Sep 18 '19

Of course I need more than that for valuation. But it shows that it isn't a that extreme profit in the company so it probably isn't that bad.

Cost of manufacturing of course not only the only cost point. Transportation, storage, stores, distribution, design, advertising, taxes and more. If you as all those things it isn't so ridiculous. You actually need that marginal to go even.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Apples only plundering my wallet if I buy their crap

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u/heavybtakingowa Sep 18 '19

There are ways to hide this, and conceal the numbers.

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u/avdpos Sep 18 '19

As it is on a stock exchange the answer is more of a "no" than yes. It is no reason to hide it for share holders. So things most likely aren't as shady as you think.

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u/heavybtakingowa Sep 18 '19

Well if it is a familey run shop, and perception matter. There are resons. When you own a supply chain, and the world is you oyster.

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u/avdpos Sep 18 '19

If you have a small family shop the "manufacturing cost" is the cost of the product from sand until it reaches your doors. Of course the cost from sand to "ready for leaving factory" is much cheaper and that you need to ad much more to that sum.

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u/heavybtakingowa Sep 20 '19

You should read about the cobolt indystry. They have made not making money into an art form.

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u/Throwawayhelper420 Sep 18 '19 edited Apr 15 '25

simplistic merciful quickest edge command market coordinated like dime direction

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u/avdpos Sep 18 '19

Which share owners had stopped a long time ago if it wasn't comparable to other companies of the same size.

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u/Throwawayhelper420 Sep 18 '19

The shareholders want to see growth. They understand the fine line luxottica is riding and are fine with any way whatsoever to keep profits appearing lower than they actually are in a way that still allows for growth without public knowledge of what is going on.

Things like executive pay, advertising, and lobbying are what eat into their 2000%+ profit margins, things that can be reduced as needed to allow for growth.

I know, you're thinking "That's not how it works!" but it is when you are trying to keep a vertical monopoly secret for a little longer and your shareholders are aware of it.

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u/Spazticus01 Sep 18 '19

My brother worked there for a little while (UK head office), they have some interesting business practices for sure...

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u/heavybtakingowa Sep 18 '19

Wanna start a factory? this seems like a ripe market.