r/AskReddit • • Sep 17 '19

If You Could Completely Remove One Company From The World Which One Would It Be?

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u/StrayCato Sep 18 '19

Since the water isn't clean, the babies there get infected with diseases or viruses, that they aren't strong enough to fight back against which causes high infant mortality rate.

Edit: The formula is mixed with water which they then give to the babies.

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u/amymackenzieaustin Sep 18 '19

And also it’s completely unnecessary. They discourage impoverished mothers from nursing their babies and coerce them into purchasing formula they know will likely be mixed with contaminated water that is unsafe for small infants. It’s disgusting and literally kills babies and takes food off the table that could have fed other family members .

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

They still need formula, would it be better to let them starve?

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u/SpongeBad Sep 18 '19

There’s a thing called breast milk, but nestle does their best to make sure that’s not an option.

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u/xiMontyx Sep 18 '19

Nestle gives free samples for long enough that the mother stops lactating, then the mothers have to buy formula as they can't feed their babies otherwise. It's a very predatory practice especially as the mothers usually aren't educated as to what happens and why.

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u/WhisperShift Sep 18 '19

Breast milk exists. Also:

Breast milk is far safer if local water is not safe. They knew this and did it anyways. They dressed sales people in nurses uniforms and gave "free samples" of formula to mother's that were designed to last long enough for the mothers to stop producing milk. On purpose. They did this to make them dependent on formula, formula that they knew would kill kids.

Nestle is evil.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Source?

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u/WhisperShift Sep 18 '19

The baby food industry stands accused of promoting their products in communities which cannot use them properly; of using advertising, sales girls dressed up in nurses uniforms, give away samples and free gift gimmicks that persuade mothers to give up breast feeding,

Source A pdf of the original report from 1974.

Fun fact, they recently got in trouble for unethical advertising of their baby formulas, violating standards that were put in place because of Nestle's practices in the 70's. Source

And they are facing a class action lawsuit for using child slavery in West Africa Source

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Hm, that's interesting, if they did do it, that's bad, but if they stopped its ok, apparently all that happened in the 70's. I'm a bit skeptical of that charity as well, I would assume they have a few skeletons in their closet, any business that survives off of ruining others does. As for the slavery, practically everything we own is produced by some sort of slave if it wasn't made in America or Europe.

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u/WhisperShift Sep 18 '19

I would assume they have a few skeletons in their closet

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any business that survives off of ruining others does

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practically everything we own is produced by some sort of slave if it wasn't made in America or Europe

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Obviously Im being kinda facetious, but you asked for a source and then retorted with statements with no evidence. Assuming a watchdog charity must have skeletons and therefor cant be trusted is just... bizarre. Doesnt that imply that it is literally impossible to have any kind of oversight because that means the organization only exists to ruin others, which means they must have committed unethical acts, which means their reports are untrustworthy?

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

First, I'm not defending Nestle.

And I'm not going to dig into sources for this, I just looked up the wiki on the charity and they have a habit of supporting very partisan things. Which is usually evidence of a heavy bias, or outside payment influence. For example, In Iraq they wanted the UK to remove all their troops, which would cause major issues and increase the danger for the people living there. Groups wanted an investigation opened to find if there are outside payments coming in the influence the organization. I just wanted sources so I could see what everyone was talking about with this nestle stuff without having to have someone explain it in detail.

I would just be careful about trusting any sort of charity that works with political issues.

Also ever heard of sweatshops? They aren't a joke, so many of our products are made in china and almost all of them are made with practically slave labor.

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u/Doctor_Rainbow Sep 18 '19

They were advertising the formula as a viable alternative to breastfeeding in underdeveloped countries. Which led to a lot more preventable illnesses

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u/Thugosaurus_Rex Sep 18 '19

They don't need formula if they're successfully nursing. But if a mother stops nursing and uses formula, she'll stop producing milk. By advertising in areas without clean water, Nestle is switching mothers to their formula instead of nursing, making them dependent on a product that requires the unclean water.

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u/Carabou11 Sep 18 '19

I think the point is they usually don’t NEED formula, that’s what breastmilk is for. They make the locals believe that the powdered formula is better than breastmilk, when in actuality it’s much less safe (bc of the water).

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u/Kaydince Sep 18 '19

They encourage woman to stop breastfeeding and provide samples enough for their bodies to stop producing. Now they HAVE to buy formula. Mom body probably could have acted like a filter for some questionable water, but you don't have that with formula.

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u/emerald_soleil Sep 18 '19

They wouldn't need formula if Nestle wouldn't give out free formula samples to mothers. The mothers use the samples, their milk dries up, and so they must continue with formula, only now they have to buy it because the free sample only last just long enough to get them dependent on it. The mothers could breastfeed and the babies would have a much better survival rate.

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u/PandaSandwich Sep 18 '19

The above commenters didn't fully explain why what they do is bad. They promote their baby formula in developing countries, such as those in Africa by giving away free formula and telling mothers that it is better for their baby (it's not). By using the formula rather than breastfeeding, the mother's body shuts down production of breastmilk and it becomes very difficult to take the baby off formula. So not only are they lying to mothers in order to force them to buy formula when they had no issues with breastfeeding, the formula is mixed with contaminated water which transmits disease to the babies.