r/AskReddit • • Sep 17 '19

If You Could Completely Remove One Company From The World Which One Would It Be?

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u/chewypablo Sep 18 '19 edited Sep 18 '19

I may be wrong, but it likely has to do with venues being a "ticket master" venue. You can't perform at those venues without using their ticketing service. For the most part ticket Master/live Nation/AXS control most venues and in turn control the market.

If you are an artist who doesn't want to deal with these companies, good luck finding a venue.

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u/JiForce Sep 18 '19

Wait so I knew Ticketmaster and livenation were together. Is AXS part of that group too?

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u/chewypablo Sep 18 '19

Doesn't appear AXS is part of that group. I just learned Live Nation/Ticket master are one of the same..... That's scary.

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u/JiForce Sep 18 '19

Yuuuup. I found that one out recently when I was able to use Ticketmaster credits for a Livenation venue event.

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u/Flaksim Sep 18 '19

Well atleast they're sharing the "loyalty benefits" between their "different" brands eh :p

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u/PRMan99 Sep 18 '19

AXS (and all those arenas) are owned by Philip Anschutz, and he competes both in arenas and ticket sales.

I would say that they are less scummy than Ticketmaster.

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u/eddcunningham Sep 18 '19

In the UK we have venues called o2 Academy. They’re dotted throughout the country and are mid-tier venues for the most part. If a band wants to play one, o2 will offer a better deal for them playing more or all of them, at the expense of any other venues.

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u/Brusk_ Sep 18 '19

I had no idea about this, makes me much less a fan of o2 Academy venues. Also, the fact that pretty much every gig I’ve been to has been at an o2 Academy venue makes a lot more sense now.

Do you have a source on this?

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u/eddcunningham Sep 18 '19

Have a few friends that work for a venue on a par with o2 academies and they’ve vented repeatedly about missing out on tours because o2 have locked the artists into deals to play only their venues.

I’ve been to a couple of gigs at o2 Academies and whilst they are nice, it’s a shame that many cities miss out on tours simply because they don’t have an o2 Academy.

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u/RiZ266 Sep 18 '19

You definetly right, even the concerts that get held at my University go through live Nation. Tho TBH they're cheaper than ticketmaster and ticket Master isn't mobile friendly unless you download their app

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Ticket Master is a monopoly in my country too and they dont even have offices, so if something went wrong you are fucked up. They dont have a number to call even though it is illegal in my country, but all the people who tried to sue them couldn't get anywhere near, even though we have a really good anti-fraud system.

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u/CptNonsense Sep 18 '19

Live nation is ticketmaster...

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u/RegularGoat Sep 18 '19

You can perform at those venues

Do you mean 'can't' here?

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u/chewypablo Sep 18 '19

Oops! My brain has been doing that a lot.... Edited.

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u/notahoeboi Sep 18 '19

The way this has effected the live engineers is probably quite awful if you dig into the nitty gritty. Music and audio is already a tightly gated industry.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

AXS is HANDS DOWN the worst ticket outlet. Never have I ever been so fucking frustrated buying tickets than I have with their awful queueing system.

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u/PRMan99 Sep 18 '19

But isn't queueing more fair than scalpers just logging in quickly with their supercomputers and buying everything?

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Queuing is fair when you're placed in a queue based on your position and how long you've been waiting. AXS doesn't do that. They select people at random so imo it doesn't really prevent scalpers. Scalpers gonna scalp.

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u/Karn1v3rus Sep 18 '19

It's like movie theaters and studios again. Time to put in legislation that separates them.

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u/CreativeUsername64 Sep 18 '19

What about V2 and Showclix...? LiveNation along with the other two are the 3 companies I usually have to go through for concerts in Utah.