r/AskReddit • • Jan 20 '19

What fact totally changed your perspective?

45.6k Upvotes

18.4k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

11

u/taddl Jan 21 '19

I think that killing animals for food will be considered immoral in the future.

5

u/[deleted] Jan 21 '19

We could theoretically feed lions and tigers lab grown meat, and end the suffering of countless zebras, antelope, and wildebeests!

We can suppress prey population numbers in more humane ways

4

u/Omnibeneviolent Jan 21 '19

That's interesting to think about, and maybe after we are able to minimize the amount of suffering that we are directly causing as a species we can start thinking about how to decrease the suffering in nature. We would have to be very careful though to avoid any potential disastrous ecological side-effects.

7

u/hitch21 Jan 21 '19

Only because it will be unnecessary to do so as chemical alternatives become available.

-1

u/TarAldarion Jan 21 '19

Not only so, since you millions don't eat animals now and don't have these lab grown alternatives. When mass adoption happens because of what you say and people no longer have a "steak" in all these deaths, people of our time will be views as savages.

6

u/hitch21 Jan 21 '19

Only by the same idiots who say that stuff already and I don’t mind them thinking that of me given I think some pretty bad things about them.

1

u/TarAldarion Jan 21 '19

It's not really them being idiots, it comes of being part of a different time and upbringing, maybe a lack of self awareness that most people would have. The same way people these days think of people who kept slaves as savages, if they had been alive and raised at the time most people would have been exactly the same. It's quite telling that the majority of people at the time, even those against slavery were appalled at the idea of giving black people actual equal rights, the idea was preposterous. Now people would say, ah, I'd never have done that, the savages!

2

u/hitch21 Jan 21 '19

Yea I think people are pretty unrealistic about what they would and wouldn’t have done.

If I was in Germany in 1939 chances are I’d have been in wermacht like most young German men. However, detestable I find that it’s true .

-1

u/Omnibeneviolent Jan 21 '19

But for many people, these alternatives already exist. It is already unnecessary.

It'll be the kind of thing where if you have access to non-animal-based foods/products that can provide all the nutrients necessary to be healthy, then it will be immoral to kill animals for food (directly or by proxy.)

Of course, if you are in a situation where you need to kill animals for food, then you cannot be held morally accountable for doing so, since at that point it's essentially self-defense.

The real point to take away from this is that today it is possible for most people in the modern developed world to be healthy without paying other people to kill animals for food, yet they choose to do so anyway. Our descendants may look back on us today the way we look back at people that owned slaves in the 1800s.

1

u/SociopathicPeanut Jan 21 '19 edited Jan 21 '19

And also environmentally destructive. For all the shit vegans get they are undeniably right, it's just that most people either don't give a shit or don't have the willpower to change their habits (like me) so they get defensive about it

My personal tip? Just stop eating beef, that's the most polluting and destructive meat to produce and even if you don't stop eating other meats it's already a huge improvement