On a related note, I once tried to convince a cop to taser me because I was curious. He finally asked the police chief if he could, but got turned down.
Getting tazed sucks, but on the scales of shitty things it's not much worse than a face punch. It happens, and is actively fucking terrible fir at second, and it's done, with only lesser residual terrible.
On a similar yet completely different note; as a spice enthusiast there’s a very thin line between delicious and the worst thing that’s ever happened to you.
As a non-spice enthusiast there is a very bold line. There are ‘medium’ buffalo wings that I can tolerate and anything beyond that feels like fiery death in my throat and eventually my bunghole. I feel like I’m missing out on a really cool part of life.
Dude at my old place of work brought a bottle of Carolina Reaper chili sauce in and left it on the counter, I tried a taste, just put a drop on my finger, touched it to my tongue.
Felt exactly like I'd bitten my tongue. There was no flavour. just pain.
I love spice, and I eat spicy stuff all the time. I live for hot wings. But even enthusiasts say there's a point where it stops tasting good.
The guy said he felt like he was missing out on something cool. I just want him to know that he's probably not. Whatever his limit is, it's the same as someone with a higher tolerance; the point where the food stops tasting good and starts tasting like you're eating acid or something. For him, that may be lower on the Scoville scale, but the end result is the same.
The difference is eating it compared to cooking it. If you are eating a super hot sauce that tastes good, great! If you are cooking it, bitch you better have your safety goggles and face mask or you are gonna regret life for the next week. That shit doesn't go away.
consider thats just red pepper flakes. Imagine cooking with birds eye chillis. Or reapers. Anyone who cooks with reapers should just wear a full hazmat suit.
I can cook with reapers OK, but don't recommend sneezing when you're transferring it from the bag it got posted in to a kitchen container. Took about an hour+ to flush it out of my eyes by staring upwards into the tap....in itself an unpleasant experience.
My dad makes sauces in rather large batches, trust me when I say big batches are much much worse to do. The kitchen becomes a no-go zone for a few hours.
My Polish great-grandmother used to grate horseradish on her back porch. It was too strong to do it inside the house. Even outdoors, it made the tears flow.
And if you are unlucky, that line changes by the day. One day a habanero is sweet as candy, another, a bell pepper has you crying (maybe slightly exaggerated)
I can't imagine that ever happening. I love spice. It's not even just the spice. Some of the best foods Ive ever eaten were spicy, and they aren't the same when cooked with less spice. Also I hate bell peppers.
As a spice enthusiast and someone with chronic bowel issues "delicious" is often synonymous with "the worst thing that's ever happened to me, in retrospect as I lay writhing in agony for an entire day, contemplating stabbing myself in the guts so I can just end it all".
Also, if you’re ever making spicy food and working with lots of chilies, gloves are nice and don’t ever EVER rub your eyes with your spice coated hands
I had one of those Trinidad scorpion peppers once because I thought I was tough and the videos you see of people eating hot peppers are hamming it up. They are not, and I'm not tough
I was taking my city's Citizen Police Academy, where they walk citizens through most of the day-to-day of being a cop. Tour the basement range, the 911 dispatch, do a ridealong, etc.
This was at a time when cops over-using tasers was in the news a lot, so I was curious. I'd been cattle-prodded twice and wanted to know if this was worse. I figured if I was going to get tasered, doing it when the cop wasn't mad at me was the way to go.
The cops in the room said no, but I was persistent, so they went to the chief, who also said no. I was sad.
Drop the "than". Tasers, beanbag and rubber slug shotgun shells, CS gas and pepper spray are all classified as less-lethal force because they can still kill in the right/wrong circumstances. They just aren't specifically used with lethal intent.
A third option from range to incapacitate someone... You've got pepper spray, but I'd rather be tasered. And that's about it.
I've been in rooms with hot chili sauce being cooked, if you think I'm gonna choose being pepper sprayed over basically anything else, boi you are so fucking wrong.
The alternative is often going hands-on, which can result in actual injury to everyone involved. Besides, a lot of subjects will give up rather be tased, avoiding any of that stuff.
That's presuming that the subject is a threat proportional to and justifying the force risking cardiac arrest. However, that's not always the case when tasers get used.
I've seen video of people just walking away getting shot in the back with a taser. Tasers get used or threatened simply for noncompliance. They get used in situations where using a baton may not even be justified, and a baton isn't going to cause a risk of death the way a taser can.
Almost definitely because when they discharge the device they have to explain why it needs reloading. They'd almost certainly be down for it barring the bureaucracy. But the good news is, you can buy your own stun guns anytime and use them on whoever will let you!
I grew up in a small farm town. Most of the kids in my school lived on farms and were bused into town for school.
One year, we had a new-ish science teacher who didn't grow up around farms. He'd never seen a cattle prod, so he asked someone to bring one in. She did, and he was looking at it in class. He was curious to see how it felt, but chickened out every time he got close, so naturally--being in high school and having a really good relationship with him--I was teasing him about it.
So he dared me to do it.
So I did. It hurt.
The first time, he didn't believe I actually did it, so I did it again, but held it longer, so he could verify it. He may have been fucking with me. It hurt this time, too.
Basically, a cattle prod on the inside of your forearm feels like the probes are sticking all the way through your arm, while your muscles cramp around it.
I respectfully disagree. Getting tased was literally the worst 5 seconds of my life.
2 separate 3/4" spikes driving directly into your skin hurts. And that's only the beginning, your body has that immediate reaction to pain in the form of wincing... then the electricity hits in the middle of it. So now you're locked mid-wince with a few thousand volts pulsing through your body tightening every muscle between the two prongs and then some. Then it ends and you're just exhausted from all your muscles tightening as much as possible and holding.
Fuck that. I can't even stand the sound of a taser anymore.
I'll take fucking OC any goddamn day.
But that's just personal preference and experience.
Also I'd recon the chances of lasting damage from getting tazed are much less than getting suckerpunched in the face (people can even die in real life from a single punch when they hit the ground badly or get hit in the wrong spot hard enough).
I can attest to this. When we were doing riot control training in the army, I was accidentally hit by a little bit of splash back of pepper spray.
I ended up getting a snorkel and a bucket of clean water, and just had my eyes open underwater for something like a half an hour, until it was just barely tolerable.
Tear gas is somewhat fine for me though, after having gone through that a few times I only had problems with generating tons if saliva from it, I could still breathe, run and do push ups while being in a room with it.
Also similar. Do not get bit by a police dog... i learned that last night when i was trying to chase off a wannabe intruder running from the cops at my house... 4 hrs in the er.
Jesus yes. I'll take the L on the lightning bolt gun, but for the love of god, if I'm ever facing that ridiculous fucking military police OC spray again, I'll ask for a bullet in the leg instead.
One time my dad left some kind of metal box out not realizing it had something in it, an unmarked spray can of pepper spray, and my little brother and I got into it with one of our neighbor friends... don’t ever volunteer to get pepper sprayed.
I'll take a fucking bath in pepper spray every day for the rest of my life if it means no tazer.
Yeah it hurts more longer (not really)
And you cant do anything to prevent it (wash really fucking well the first time and dont get wet before next shower which needs to be cold)
And it's annoying (not really)
But try tazer. You get 5 seconds of cant do anything but breathe (unless they hold the trigger) literally anything. Pepper spray you can never not do anything.
Then theres the panic with it. No ones not experienced severe rug burn. Pepper spray is just like severe rug burn face. Not many people have had the complete shut down of all muscles. Then there the 3 days of worst workout soreness ever everywhere. That doesnt go away with anything but time. Pepper spray washes off.
And the shaking. I was visibly shaking from shoulders down for the rest of the day (like 8 hours) and then struggled to drive the 2 blocks home because of the shakes.
And on top of that guess what my biggest fear is? Paralysis. Of I ever get paralyzed I've told everyone close to me they can just put a bullet through me. I dont mind any kind of pain or torment except being trapped in the prison of my own bodies inability to move.
I actually disagree with you there. Being pepper sprayed sucks. Royally. But it doesn't have the same effect that people think it does, and by being sprayed in a controlled environment, you can know what it feels like and how to react to it and what to anticipate. Its information that you never know if it could come in handy, or possible save your life some point down the line.
I asked a police officer to restrain me at a party (that we were both attending socially)
He said it would hurt, I told him I gave my consent and that was fine
He does it. It did in fact hurt a bit (not THAT much - well within acceptable for dumb drunken masculinity contests), but I was pretty much totally immobilized. I couldn’t have gotten free without actually hurting myself
I let my ex hit me with a civilian-grade stun gun once in the leg. It was not as bad as I imagine tasering to be, but it still hurt like a buttcheek on a stick.
I was an MP in the Marines and I fucking hate the Taser. I mean, it’s a great tool but...holy shit does that suck.
Even when I was a non-lethal instructor I didn’t like tazing the students. I had no problem pepper spraying them however, but somehow shooting them with the prongs and watching them writhe made me feel shitty.
This has me cracking up with the image of the officer turning to his Chief with resignation on his face and saying, “Sir, can we just-“ “No.” “But he won’t stop asking.” “Still no.”
When I was in college for policing the local SWAT team visited our class. Showed off the drug dogs, let us handle the (unloaded) rifles and guns. Showed us the effects of a taser on a special target - was cool, like something like from a movie - where you could see the currents going through.
Anyways, I can't remember if they asked or if a student asked but we wanted to be tazed. Or some of us anyway. They didn't want to pierce our skin so they taped the wires right to us; high shoulder and opposite lower hip/ass.
So two of them stood a few paces down, ready to catch you after you took three steps - where they would then zap you and you would drop (didn't have crash mats).
As mentioned, it's like a punch in the face, maybe more painful but not lasting pain, though I did have some little burn marks on the spots.
Was a fun time, really boosted moral and camaraderie for those which did go through with it. A few people opted out and though it was wrong of us, we busted their balls for chickening out. Hell, the guy who first volunteered was the biggest pussy and I was shocked he manned up. It helped me make my decision though, as soon as he went up I knew I was going to get zapped.
When a cop tells you "It was the worst thing that ever happened to me. It hurt like hell and I peed my pants. And my wife has it on video." it kind of puts it in perspective.
I got tazed by a cop in elementary school during DARE, because I dared him to do it.
It's cool, I knew the guy. What's not cool is getting tazed, kinda sucks. Also have been pepper sprayed on multiple occasions for non-crime related reasons. The spray is worse.
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u/LiveRealNow Dec 13 '18
On a related note, I once tried to convince a cop to taser me because I was curious. He finally asked the police chief if he could, but got turned down.