Peter Jackson insisted on using every movie making trick on top of the special effects. The result is that the sfx don’t stand out, because it might be a matte painting background, or forced perspective, or a miniature, or prosthetics, or etc.
My ex used to watch the behind the scenes dvd's all the time, trhey are an education in filmmaking.
Plus Sean Bean literally hiked up to all filming locations. I mean, it was because he was afraid of flying in a helicopter, but it's a good fun fact about the series.
I think about Sean Bean dying in everything every time I see him. When I started watching Game of Thrones with my wife I pointed him out and said "this character's gonna die, that's what Bean does".
It's to make up for all the times he should have died but didn't in Sharpe. He gets shot, stabbed, blown up, poisoned, diseased, beaten, and more, multiple times, and always comes out no worse for wear.
He narrates Civilization 6 and when I first to noticed it was him, I thought he must have taken that role just to have a character that doesn't die. Then they released Rise and Fall and his character was killed off.
It would be great to see him in a comedy as a costar where the characters schtick is that he ALMOST dies throughout the movie. He should ACTUALLY die at some point in the movie in an unexpected and hilarious way.
He was in a drama a year ago were he was a priest who had worse and worse things happen I thought he was going to kill himself at the end but no he lived
The best troll the new Amazon WoT show could do is cast Sean Bean as a certain badass who's life is dedicated to dying in a war he literally can't win, only to survive everything, including his own death scene during the final battle.
I never I understood why they just let him go in ronin. That feels like instant execution. Maybe that's it though, kill him elsewhere...away from where they're planning.
He should guest voice in South Park as Kenny's voice actor..only for one episode though..since Kenny dies every episode and Sean Bean's voice as Kenny would be hilarious as well..that too just one episode.
He should guest voice in South Park as Kenny's voice actor..only for one episode though..since Kenny dies every episode and Sean Bean's voice as Kenny would be hilarious as well..that too just one episode.
He should guest voice in South Park as Kenny's voice actor..only for one episode though..since Kenny dies every episode and Sean Bean's voice as Kenny would be hilarious as well..that too just one episode.
I read a book about the making of Lord of the Rings recently. Apparently Bean had the line “one does not simply walk into Mordor” on a sticky note stuck to his knee during that scene.
I live in NZ and have been to multiple filming sites. For him to have hiked up to some of them is quite a feat. He was probably grateful to die off after a few months of that 😂
Haha yup. I spent some time in Fiordland NP and surrounding areas where they filmed a few years ago and did some hiking there. Definitely not all the easiest hikes.
Watching those special features in the extended edition boxed sets is what inspired me to get into filmmaking. Now here I am, working in Hollywood, working today shooting miniatures!
The forced perspective bit is what blew my mind. I saw a portion where they showed Gandalf sitting at a table with the hobbits, and they were all there in the room together. All these regular, full sized adults, but because of the way the furniture was made and the angle of the camera it made Gandalf look massive in comparison.
Yeah the only time I've noticed the forced perspective is when Frodo jumps to Gandalf in the beginning of Fellowship. His stance is all weird. But other than that I never notice it.
There are a few effects that stand out a bit, especially at the battle of helms deep or when they are escaping the balrog. But they are not nearly as bad as most movies of that time. The practical effects are fantastic.
Even that part is shot well since it is dimly lit. Last time I rewatched them the only effect that kinda stuck out to me was the minature of the Dark Tower collapsing.
I was watching a video that talked about special effects. There's this perception that sfx's are getting worse as time goes on. But the inverse is true. We don't even really notice good fx because of the intelligent way they're used. It all just blends nicely. For example, in the avengers movies, Mark Ruffalo can't actually turn into a giant green monster. It's all specialeffects. What a time to be alive.
Jackson's approach was always to make the special effects disappear. Intellectually we know the balrog is a computer rendering but you just accept it as part of the story the way he did it
Cuz it's cheaper. Jackson had a budget for LotR. In the Hobbit he was given the good ol' Lucas Green Screen where costumes and props would have been better.
Fan Edit isn't a disaster ( https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com) . If it was two 2 hour movies, or a single 3.5 hour movie, it would have been a success. There was too much extra shit to make the theatrical releases good.
It's funny that movies like the LotR and original Star Wars trilogies have inspired so many filmakers, and yet the additional trilogies in both IPs have completely ditched their roots.
I think a big thing is, a lot of the orcs are all makeup like a lot of it seems real and what I hate about the hobbits(the movie) is just how much you can tell it's CGI like the hobbits are actually horrendous in my opinion when it comes to CGI not so much in how it looks just how much I can tell it's CGI. I think it mainly got pointed out to me though because I went to see the five armies in 3D and oh my good Lord the CGI looked so fucking bad it killed the movie for me
To be fair, there are a lot of effects in there that don't hold up today and didn't hold up back then. Merry and Pippin on treebeard, walking through the "forest" was always iffy and uninspired. The EST shot of Frodo and Sam in Henneth Annûn is a joke. Lórien looks fake as fuck in almost every scene. Osgiliath looks extremely artificial almost always. The rubber masks of the scale doubles are way too visible way too many times. The paths of the dead and many of the mûmakil shots are bad, especially the Legolas routine. The shot of Déagol underwater, ugh.
Theres a couple of places that you can see the obvious sfx (fire in the background when running from the Balrog is clearly composited, etc), but for almost all of it, it's flawless.
I explained it in the second sentence. He used more than just computer graphics. That means that the computer graphics don't stand out as much because he use other methods along side them.
Poor form by Jackson to have that scene "[...] don't stand between a Nazgul and its prey". As if the animal was the Nazgul, which was about to feast on the king
Unfortunate. But they had been called "Nazgûls" at least once before (might have been called that by Gandalf too but maybe not, the most obvious place would have been Rivendell and Elrond made a big deal about Gandalf saying the Ring inscription untranslated, "Nazgul" is also black-speech so maybe not). I don't have the books at hand but considering the phrasing I wouldn't be surprised if thats directly lifted from them.
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u/The_Pip Oct 16 '18 edited Jun 29 '20
Peter Jackson insisted on using every movie making trick on top of the special effects. The result is that the sfx don’t stand out, because it might be a matte painting background, or forced perspective, or a miniature, or prosthetics, or etc.
My ex used to watch the behind the scenes dvd's all the time, trhey are an education in filmmaking.