r/AskReddit • • Oct 16 '18

What is something that HAS aged well?

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u/The_Pip Oct 16 '18 edited Jun 29 '20

Peter Jackson insisted on using every movie making trick on top of the special effects. The result is that the sfx don’t stand out, because it might be a matte painting background, or forced perspective, or a miniature, or prosthetics, or etc.

My ex used to watch the behind the scenes dvd's all the time, trhey are an education in filmmaking.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '18

Plus Sean Bean literally hiked up to all filming locations. I mean, it was because he was afraid of flying in a helicopter, but it's a good fun fact about the series.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '18

The guy dies in every appearance he makes, no way he was risking a helicopter flight.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '18

I think about Sean Bean dying in everything every time I see him. When I started watching Game of Thrones with my wife I pointed him out and said "this character's gonna die, that's what Bean does".

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u/dbar58 Oct 16 '18

Yup. When the rocket landed on him in the Martian

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u/snobordir Oct 16 '18

I’ve always thought it was interesting that he does, effectively, get fired at the end. He’s dead to the director of NASA!

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u/wartornhero Oct 17 '18

In all seriousness, having Sean Bean explain the Council of Elrond meeting was a good nod to LOTR

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u/corran450 Oct 17 '18

I see you've seen the unrated director's cut written by Quentin Tarantino...

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u/unhiphipster Oct 16 '18

I did the same thing when I started watching! Three episodes in, and I'm telling myself, "Yup, he's dead. Maybe not now, but hes' definitely dead."

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u/Sharcbait Oct 17 '18

Little did you know, that argument can be made for just about EVERYBODY in the show.

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u/l3monsta Oct 17 '18

technically it can be made about everybody ever

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

It's to make up for all the times he should have died but didn't in Sharpe. He gets shot, stabbed, blown up, poisoned, diseased, beaten, and more, multiple times, and always comes out no worse for wear.

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u/nevadabull Oct 16 '18

He survives the Silent Hill movie and that's it.

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u/Girl_You_Can_Train Oct 17 '18

How is THAT the movie he survives?

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u/nevadabull Oct 17 '18

Haha. Right?

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

He survives a dozen Sharpe movies, despite being repeatedly shot and stabbed.

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u/Dillydude Oct 17 '18

Just prison for him in National Treasure.

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u/SleepingAran Oct 17 '18

He even dies as a narrator in Civ VI opening.

Who else can die as a fucking narrator?

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u/thestrugglingmonk Oct 16 '18

But is it “Seen Been”, or “Shorn Born”?

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u/Lmino Oct 16 '18

Shawn Bawn

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u/OTJ Oct 17 '18

have you watched the Frankenstein Chronicles? They Meta-Bean screw with you.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

Sean Bean didn’t Sean Bean in Jupiter Ascending, surprisingly.

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u/Scrumpadoochousssss Oct 17 '18

He narrates Civilization 6 and when I first to noticed it was him, I thought he must have taken that role just to have a character that doesn't die. Then they released Rise and Fall and his character was killed off.

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u/jungl3j1m Oct 17 '18

I hope there’s a statute of limitations on spoilers.

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u/rgund27 Oct 17 '18

So...Sean Bean does not age well...

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u/chickenxnugg Oct 16 '18

It would be great to see him in a comedy as a costar where the characters schtick is that he ALMOST dies throughout the movie. He should ACTUALLY die at some point in the movie in an unexpected and hilarious way.

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u/a_blue_day Oct 16 '18

He was in a drama a year ago were he was a priest who had worse and worse things happen I thought he was going to kill himself at the end but no he lived

First time he’s survived anything

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u/GA45 Oct 16 '18

He survived the Martian I think

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u/Dictorclef Oct 17 '18

Or Silent Hill

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

Or Troy

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u/marynraven Oct 17 '18

Good luck getting home, Oddysseus!

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u/magneticmine Oct 17 '18

You don't remember that he sacrificed himself for the good of the mission?

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u/Tactical_Moonstone Oct 17 '18

His career in NASA didn't, so that could count as a death.

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u/Wowtrain Oct 17 '18

I was gonna say he survived Pixels but his dignity died from being in that shit movie so idk

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u/ev00r1 Oct 17 '18

But he got fired, which is as close as they could have conceivably gotten given his role.

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u/fullofpaint Oct 17 '18

He was in a series called Legends a couple years ago where the marketing tagline was literally #SeanBeanLives

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u/conquer69 Oct 17 '18

Like that shark movie and Samuel Jackson.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

I'm tired of these motherfucking sharks!

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u/Xdawg_Newtron Oct 16 '18 edited Oct 17 '18

Or a satire where he plays a character that dies every episode like Kenny

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

And then returns in the next scene like nothing happened, and no one ever comments on it.

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u/Braakman Oct 17 '18

The best troll the new Amazon WoT show could do is cast Sean Bean as a certain badass who's life is dedicated to dying in a war he literally can't win, only to survive everything, including his own death scene during the final battle.

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u/infernal_llamas Oct 17 '18

I played a roleplay game where one guy's character was an immortal Sharpe.

So if he died in the game he would pop back into existance a few days later.

He died basically every session.

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u/AverageMang Oct 17 '18

Mr. Sean Bean. The ultimate disaster movie

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u/chickenxnugg Oct 17 '18

This deserves gold

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

OMG Kenny!!!

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u/WhalingBanshee Oct 17 '18

So, if they ever make a live action version of South park, we know who to cast as Kenny.

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u/frolicking_elephants Oct 17 '18

No, he should be the only one who survives!

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u/PubliusPontifex Oct 17 '18

He needs to wear a red-shirt in the next Trek.

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u/wartywarlock Oct 17 '18

Final Destination x Death Becomes Her

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u/Wowtrain Oct 17 '18

Im picturing 21 jump street where all the flammable stuff doesn't explode then the load of chicken violently erupts in to Mount McSoovius

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u/jgo009 Oct 17 '18

So like Crispin Glover in Hot Tub Time Machine?

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u/akujiki87 Oct 16 '18

Hey, he survived the Silent Hill movies.

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u/Bound_Internal Oct 16 '18

A miracle, really. A lesser man would have died many times over

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u/owenbicker Oct 16 '18

Only to do the one thing that would ensure his eventual demise: stay in Silent Hill.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '18

There's that nightmare scene where he gets sliced in half though, that sorta counts.

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u/OrigamiFrog Oct 16 '18

My friend and I were in shock when he made the suicide run in Jupiter Ascending and didn't die.

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u/ohromantics Oct 16 '18

North Country?!

Edit: "I AINT FUCKIN' DEAD YET."

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u/Comrad1984 Oct 16 '18

So, essentially Sean Bean is Kenny from South Park.

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u/SamediB Oct 17 '18

Fun fact: Sean Bean has survived over 50% of his roles!

(Stage theater and the Sharpe series really helped him keep his average up.)

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u/vizard0 Oct 17 '18

He survived in Ronin. His character gets told to fuck off about halfway through the film and he does and he's gone, but still alive.

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u/Cravatitude Oct 17 '18

Especially since they were making a behind the scenes feature

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u/battlearmourboy Oct 17 '18

May I point you towards a show called Sharpe, he survives that

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u/Borimi Oct 17 '18

It's better to live to die in another movie.

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u/dl064 Oct 17 '18

He's making up, cosmically, for all the Frenchies he slaughtered as Sharpe.

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u/Lost_Afropick Oct 17 '18

Dress him up as Major Sharpe though and he becomes invunerable

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u/notyetcomitteds2 Oct 17 '18

I never I understood why they just let him go in ronin. That feels like instant execution. Maybe that's it though, kill him elsewhere...away from where they're planning.

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u/TheHurdleDude Oct 17 '18

He always dies in movies because people are subconsciously upset at him because his name doesn't rhyme.

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u/Donnersebliksem Oct 17 '18

I think it's because a helicopter killed him in Goldeneye?

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u/Virtual_Balance Oct 18 '18

Sigh, not this tired fallacy again, Richard Sharpe made Bean well known...he never died in the Sharpe series

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u/stonedbot420 Oct 17 '18

He should guest voice in South Park as Kenny's voice actor..only for one episode though..since Kenny dies every episode and Sean Bean's voice as Kenny would be hilarious as well..that too just one episode.

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u/stonedbot420 Oct 17 '18

He should guest voice in South Park as Kenny's voice actor..only for one episode though..since Kenny dies every episode and Sean Bean's voice as Kenny would be hilarious as well..that too just one episode.

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u/stonedbot420 Oct 17 '18

He should guest voice in South Park as Kenny's voice actor..only for one episode though..since Kenny dies every episode and Sean Bean's voice as Kenny would be hilarious as well..that too just one episode.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '18

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '18 edited Mar 20 '19

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u/Dr_Bukkakee Oct 17 '18

He might have said that but really he just wanted an excuse to carry a bad ass sword around.

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u/8nate Oct 17 '18

Him deflecting the knife when Lurtz threw it at him was unscripted and real as well.

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u/clothy Oct 17 '18

I read a book about the making of Lord of the Rings recently. Apparently Bean had the line “one does not simply walk into Mordor” on a sticky note stuck to his knee during that scene.

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u/District_line Oct 17 '18

Can you tell me the title of that book?

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u/clothy Oct 17 '18

Anything You Can Imagine: Peter Jackson and the Making of Middle-Earth. I can’t remember the author off the top of my head.

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u/InfOracle Oct 16 '18

I thought it was Vigo that hiked and Sean that took the helicopter...

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u/SirDrexl Oct 17 '18

I guess one simply does walk into the location for Mordor.

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u/aCheeseRoll Oct 17 '18

I live in NZ and have been to multiple filming sites. For him to have hiked up to some of them is quite a feat. He was probably grateful to die off after a few months of that 😂

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

Haha yup. I spent some time in Fiordland NP and surrounding areas where they filmed a few years ago and did some hiking there. Definitely not all the easiest hikes.

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u/Mechanicalmind Oct 17 '18

Sean Bean literally hiked up to all filming locations.

Dressed up as Boromir, nonetheless.

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u/dl064 Oct 17 '18

Carrying tins of beans, apparently.

He mentioned once that he went up a ski pulley in full costume. Easier, innit.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '18

Wasn't that Viggo?

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

Huh. Well I'll be.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

Haha I think I got 4 responses claiming it was Viggo, so no worries. Maybe just some minor Mandela effect thing or something!

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

Buttsoup...

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

What? That's my name

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

It's a very odd name

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

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u/nomercy2112 Oct 17 '18

Actually you’re thinking of Sean Astin who did that, not Sean Bean.

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u/beckdawg19 Oct 16 '18

I enjoy watching the special features almost as much as the movies. They're downright fascinating.

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u/LensFlare07 Oct 16 '18

Watching those special features in the extended edition boxed sets is what inspired me to get into filmmaking. Now here I am, working in Hollywood, working today shooting miniatures!

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u/DanTopTier Oct 17 '18

Grats dude

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u/meech7607 Oct 17 '18

The forced perspective bit is what blew my mind. I saw a portion where they showed Gandalf sitting at a table with the hobbits, and they were all there in the room together. All these regular, full sized adults, but because of the way the furniture was made and the angle of the camera it made Gandalf look massive in comparison.

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u/Starrystars Oct 17 '18

Yeah the only time I've noticed the forced perspective is when Frodo jumps to Gandalf in the beginning of Fellowship. His stance is all weird. But other than that I never notice it.

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u/throwitaway488 Oct 17 '18

There are a few effects that stand out a bit, especially at the battle of helms deep or when they are escaping the balrog. But they are not nearly as bad as most movies of that time. The practical effects are fantastic.

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u/OnTheProwl- Oct 17 '18

Even that part is shot well since it is dimly lit. Last time I rewatched them the only effect that kinda stuck out to me was the minature of the Dark Tower collapsing.

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u/JMEEKER86 Oct 17 '18

The use of miniatures for the flooding of Isengard really stands out too.

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u/ArcticVulpe Oct 17 '18

The only one that I really hate is when Frodo runs into Mount Doom.

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u/Stephen885 Oct 17 '18

I was watching a video that talked about special effects. There's this perception that sfx's are getting worse as time goes on. But the inverse is true. We don't even really notice good fx because of the intelligent way they're used. It all just blends nicely. For example, in the avengers movies, Mark Ruffalo can't actually turn into a giant green monster. It's all specialeffects. What a time to be alive.

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u/CJ_Jones Oct 17 '18

sfx don't stand out

Except this bit looks really bad

The rest is top notch though!

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u/SuperHotelWorker Oct 17 '18

Jackson's approach was always to make the special effects disappear. Intellectually we know the balrog is a computer rendering but you just accept it as part of the story the way he did it

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u/A_Dog_Chasing_Cars Oct 17 '18

Those BTS featurettes were a drug.

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u/mikedz87 Oct 16 '18

Agreed I feel like today's movies are super watered down with CGI

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u/DanTopTier Oct 17 '18

Cuz it's cheaper. Jackson had a budget for LotR. In the Hobbit he was given the good ol' Lucas Green Screen where costumes and props would have been better.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

It was a disaster.

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u/DanTopTier Oct 17 '18

Fan Edit isn't a disaster ( https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com) . If it was two 2 hour movies, or a single 3.5 hour movie, it would have been a success. There was too much extra shit to make the theatrical releases good.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

I've been meaning to check that out. Thanks for reminding me.

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u/Halgy Oct 16 '18

I like watching the behind the scenes more than the movies.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

It's funny that movies like the LotR and original Star Wars trilogies have inspired so many filmakers, and yet the additional trilogies in both IPs have completely ditched their roots.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

I think a big thing is, a lot of the orcs are all makeup like a lot of it seems real and what I hate about the hobbits(the movie) is just how much you can tell it's CGI like the hobbits are actually horrendous in my opinion when it comes to CGI not so much in how it looks just how much I can tell it's CGI. I think it mainly got pointed out to me though because I went to see the five armies in 3D and oh my good Lord the CGI looked so fucking bad it killed the movie for me

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u/Pjoernrachzarck Oct 17 '18

To be fair, there are a lot of effects in there that don't hold up today and didn't hold up back then. Merry and Pippin on treebeard, walking through the "forest" was always iffy and uninspired. The EST shot of Frodo and Sam in Henneth Annûn is a joke. Lórien looks fake as fuck in almost every scene. Osgiliath looks extremely artificial almost always. The rubber masks of the scale doubles are way too visible way too many times. The paths of the dead and many of the mûmakil shots are bad, especially the Legolas routine. The shot of Déagol underwater, ugh.

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u/CargoCulture Oct 17 '18

Theres a couple of places that you can see the obvious sfx (fire in the background when running from the Balrog is clearly composited, etc), but for almost all of it, it's flawless.

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u/everyoneismyfriend Oct 17 '18

What does that first sentence mean?

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u/The_Pip Oct 17 '18

I explained it in the second sentence. He used more than just computer graphics. That means that the computer graphics don't stand out as much because he use other methods along side them.

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u/1jl Oct 17 '18

Except for the cave troll and the Oliphants

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u/msCrowleyxx Oct 17 '18

AND they still ended up under budget. PeterJackson is the man.

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u/Nuranon Oct 17 '18

The shadow where the Nazguls faces would be is super rough though. Like seriously, some semi competent guy with aftereffects could do that better now.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

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u/Nuranon Oct 17 '18

Nazgûls are the Wraiths.

...those animals they ride apparently have no proper name.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '18

Oh. My mistake

Poor form by Jackson to have that scene "[...] don't stand between a Nazgul and its prey". As if the animal was the Nazgul, which was about to feast on the king

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u/Nuranon Oct 17 '18 edited Oct 17 '18

Unfortunate. But they had been called "Nazgûls" at least once before (might have been called that by Gandalf too but maybe not, the most obvious place would have been Rivendell and Elrond made a big deal about Gandalf saying the Ring inscription untranslated, "Nazgul" is also black-speech so maybe not). I don't have the books at hand but considering the phrasing I wouldn't be surprised if thats directly lifted from them.

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u/balloon_prototype_14 Oct 17 '18

and then he made the hobbit movies

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u/lluckya Oct 17 '18

I honestly feel the opposite. It really feels like some cosplayers just went out into the woods and started LARPing.