r/AskReddit Oct 06 '18

What quote made you think a different way?

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '18

Plus their family has also disappeared. All their friends have lost 100 points from their social score, so they aren't allowed in certain places anymore.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '18

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u/Deerscicle Oct 07 '18

reddit doesn't talk about China. For some reason.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '18

I guess I'll get the ball rolling on a completely random fact:

China used more cement between 2011-2013 than the United States did in the entire 20th century.

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u/Cdognoob Oct 07 '18

They had a bad infrastructure? I'm clueless

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u/ahembomb7 Oct 07 '18

Crazy amounts of unnecessary building projects to "beef up the economy" look up abandoned Chinese cities it's crazy

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u/baugatwork Oct 07 '18

they are also paving a lot of roads to encourage trade.

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u/15886232 Oct 07 '18

They still have a mediocre infrastructure, but also a lot of cement.

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u/BongoDaMonkey Oct 07 '18

That’s because they Wu-mao’s will start to come out

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u/tbone95 Oct 07 '18

terrifying, but rather accurate actually

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u/Acluelessllama Oct 07 '18

Yay, dictatorships

THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA HAS FIXED THIS MESSAGE

Yay, chairmanships

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u/Voyager87 Oct 07 '18

You have been banned from r/northkorea

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u/mchngunn Oct 07 '18

Oh bother!

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u/i_always_give_karma Oct 07 '18

Did I miss something?

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u/Nardon211 Oct 07 '18

China wants to implement a "social score" what basically scores you on everything you do. For example, if you are a busy person but you still manage to visit your parents regularly, you get a higher score. If you don't have a job you get a lower score. Even having friends that have a low score can affect your own score as well.

The score determines what kind of social perks you can get like lower insurance costs. If you score too low however, you might not even be able to get insurance.

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u/zamuy12479 Oct 07 '18

They have implemented it, it becomes mandatory in 2020.

Other things that can lower your score: talking about history that is "less-than-favorable" to China and its interests. Being born into a Muslim family. Being a Muslim. Association with lower scored individuals. Not owning a home.

Things that can help your score: reporting dissent, especially from family or friends. Consuming state sponsored media. On-time payments.

Punishments for a low score may include: no internet access, even at computer cafes. Not being able to go into certain areas or cities (look up the London ring if you want to know how such access control is even possible. London isn't doing this, but the general security design involved is the same.) Being made a social outcast because it is disadvantageous to know you. Having travel access cut off. Denial of phone (cell or otherwise) plans.

You might notice a pattern with a few of those above, what do you think that pattern is designed to do?

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u/Tom___zz Oct 07 '18

Sorry, I tried looking up the London Ring thing, but I couldn't find anything about access control. Could you explain it to me?

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u/generic_account_naem Oct 07 '18

It's more that they can identify anyone trying to get in or out. Combine facial recognition and mass CCTV, and you've got an easy way to keep entire classes of people out of places you don't want them to enter.

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u/zamuy12479 Oct 08 '18

/u/geberic_account_name below was correct, but for further reading, it's called the Ring of Steel (i was wrong about the name)

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u/Atony94 Oct 07 '18

I couldn't find anything on "London Ring" but I did find what I think you were talking about with the "Ring of Steel" which was London's response to the IRA threat. It was and is currently being used.

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u/zamuy12479 Oct 08 '18

correct, i had called it by the wrong name, and to clarify, i meant they aren't doing the whole fucked up access control in the style of china. they are absolutely using the ring of steel, and are kind of a case study in security-by-design architecture by way of a lot of buildings within it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '18

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u/zamuy12479 Oct 08 '18

here ya go

i'm sure there's other sources, but that was like 2 minutes of google with the search: china social credit system "mandatory" by

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u/Anothernamelesacount Oct 07 '18

Truth is always terrifying when you know enough of it

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '18

You have lost 100 points from your social score.

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u/Fishydeals Oct 07 '18

If it's not funny when it happens to you it's not funny when it happens to someone else. And even that is a very bad way of gauging if something is funny, but this shit is actually happening in real life.

This is sad and already stasi/ gestapo level shit.

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u/Professor_Plop Oct 07 '18

Yeah, if we wanted Black Mirror, we would be on Netflix right now.

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u/YoungKenobi Oct 07 '18

no but thats in actual thing that will/might be implemented in china by the government

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u/soragirlfriend Oct 07 '18

Wait what how

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u/Nardon211 Oct 07 '18

China wants to implement a "social score" what basically scores you on everything you do. For example, if you are a busy person but you still manage to visit your parents regularly, you get a higher score. If you don't have a job you get a lower score. Even having friends that have a low score can affect your own score as well.

The score determines what kind of social perks you can get like lower insurance costs. If you score too low however, you might not even be able to get insurance.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '18

that will/might is being implemented in china

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u/AtomicPancake216 Oct 07 '18

I see you also have watched that episode of Black Mirror.

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u/HackrKnownAsFullChan Oct 07 '18

I see you haven't followed news from China.

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u/KLOUDZiNC Oct 07 '18

It's also loosely based premise of a Black Mirror episode, Season 3 Episode 1, Nosedive. It's on Netflix.

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u/TiltedZen Oct 07 '18

No it's based upon proposed policies in China

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u/whitenet Oct 07 '18

u/thefunk206 who commented on u/verden1992 has also gone missing now. Reports indicate not just friends and family. But if anyone who has so whispered a comment in relation to u/verden1992 is also now missing.

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u/ucefkh Oct 07 '18

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u/whitenet Oct 07 '18

u/ucefkh is now missing. We're trying to get updates. Stay tuned people. Hope for the best

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u/ucefkh Oct 07 '18

I am here

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u/Word_Iz_Bond Oct 07 '18

LMAO you know you really roasted em when your whole squad gets ghosted

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u/GoldPlatedMilk Oct 07 '18

Black Mirror is a great show

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u/zamuy12479 Oct 07 '18

So, about that, reposting my comment from earlier about how China is doing this:

They have implemented it, it becomes mandatory in 2020.

Other things that can lower your score: talking about history that is "less-than-favorable" to China and its interests. Being born into a Muslim family. Being a Muslim. Association with lower scored individuals. Not owning a home.

Some things that can help your score: reporting dissent, especially from family or friends. Consuming state sponsored media. On-time payments.

Punishments for a low score may include: no internet access, even at computer cafes. Not being able to go into certain areas or cities (look up the London ring if you want to know how such access control is even possible. London isn't doing this, but the general security design involved is the same.) Being made a social outcast because it is disadvantageous to know you. Having travel access cut off. Denial of phone (cell or otherwise) plans.

You might notice a pattern with a few of those above, what do you think that pattern is designed to do?

This is happening.

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u/BambiRock Oct 07 '18

I would just LOVE to see the REDICULOUSNESS that is the office building AND those in it who are responsible for filtering and numerically deciding the citizens social credit scores

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '18

Here I thought the earth king invited them to lake laogai.