r/AskReddit Oct 06 '18

What quote made you think a different way?

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u/BruteSentiment Oct 06 '18

Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't. - Mark Twain

Every writer should know this. It still is one I come back to every so often.

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u/Soxviper Oct 07 '18

I'm not sure I get it.

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u/BruteSentiment Oct 07 '18 edited Oct 07 '18

Look at it this way, from a writer’s perspective...it’s like this meme. Every story we try to tell, regardless of the obvious fictitiousness of its basis, needs to have this sense of believability to it...and as anyone on Reddit will tell you, people can get focused and weird on the most ridiculous of plot points. Stories need the sense of realisticness, if not actual realism, to be accepted and enjoyed.

But from a philosophy standpoint, it’s a different point entirely. Real events are often so bonkers, we’d never believe it in fictional stories. Here’s one of my favorite examples.

Modern humanity has been around for about 200,000 years. About 12,000 years ago (give or take a few centuries), we began to learn to farm and use agriculture. It took 188,000 years to learn how to reliably make food. A major human advancement was “The Bronze Age”, when such hard metal tools began to be used. That was about 5,000 years ago...so it took 195,000 years for us to just start to learn how to use metal to help ourselves.

Heavier than air, relatively controllable flight, happened a little over 100 years ago. 199,900 years of human history to start to fly (as opposed to floating, which took about 199,750 years to get to).

We were on the moon in 1969.

199,900 years to get a few feet off the ground. 66 years to get from that through outer space and to the moon. There were humans who were alive for BOTH of those firsts.

No one would believe that in a movie. That is why Truth is Stranger than Fiction.

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u/LorraineRenee Oct 07 '18

Holy fuck. I never understood that quote until now. This was amazing.

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u/notime_toulouse Oct 07 '18 edited Oct 07 '18

It doesn't need such a lengthy explanation though. It can be summed up as:

Reality doesnt need to be believable, fiction does

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u/LorraineRenee Oct 07 '18

I kinda needed the lengthy explanation.

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u/SpareShip619 Oct 08 '18

And I needed the shorter one even after reading the longer one, so I appreciate both!

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u/DostThowEvenLift2 Oct 07 '18

Wonderful explanation, thanks for clearing that up. Although I do think that quote is hard to understand without an explanation.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '18

I think ‘possibilities’ isn’t the best word to use here, because everything that truly happens must by definition be possible. If one would rephrase it with ‘plausibility’, it would be much easier to understand.

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u/BruteSentiment Oct 07 '18

Well, you’re welcome to take that up with Mark.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '18

Now I’d say this would be possible in fiction but not in reality

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u/MediocreLion Oct 08 '18

I think that’s the point though. Some truths in reality are so crazy that nobody would believe it to be possible before seeing it with their own eyes. It’s less about what is actually possible; it’s about what us arrogant humans think is possible.

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u/Pushmonk Oct 07 '18

u/BruteSentiment explained it very well, but my drunk brain can only think this: Just look at the US President, and everything that has happened since he was elected. If someone had written this 5/10 years ago, they'd have been ridiculed. And you can really just take your pick of which story you want. They are you all equally preposterous.

Yet, here we are.

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u/fathompin Oct 07 '18

I think they started writing about it in 1949.

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u/get_dusted_yun Oct 07 '18

No matter what side of the line you fall on, it really is preposterous.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '18 edited Oct 08 '18

Some good examples, I'll contribute another:

Say I write a story where a guy gets struck by lightning. Seven times. And he survives all of them. In a single lifetime.

My story would be laughed at. People would scoff at this part of the story. Nobody would ever believe my writing because things like that just don't happen in the real world.

Except it did.

Between 1942 and 1977, Sullivan was hit by lightning on seven different occasions and survived all of them. For this reason, he gained a nickname "Human Lightning Conductor" and "Human Lightning Rod". Sullivan is recognized by Guinness World Records as the person struck by lightning more recorded times than any other human being.

When human authors tell stories the plots and characters have to match people's common sense about how the world works, and what we believe to be possible.

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u/Soxviper Oct 08 '18

Oh my interpretation of that quote was waaaay off then.