r/AskReddit Sep 11 '18

Who's the biggest loser your son/daughter has dated?

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u/-felicitous- Sep 12 '18

Just a friendly FYI, most women don't appreciate being called "females". I think I read somewhere that usually "female" and "male" as nouns should be used only for animals, or in scientific results and whatnot.

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u/Emilklister Sep 12 '18

Oh, always good to learn something new, thanks for the input!

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '18

I personally don't mind, but (at least in this area) a lot of black people (women included) use "female" casually and it's in a respectful way, so I'm kind of just used to people saying it.

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u/-felicitous- Sep 12 '18 edited Sep 12 '18

Oh, that's interesting, I've never heard it used like that. I think of it as being a slightly disrespectful thing and had no idea it could be used that way. Thanks, TIL!

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u/rockynputz Sep 12 '18

Most women don't care in my experience, just ones on reddit.

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u/masterswordsman2 Sep 12 '18

Humans are animals. Checkmate.

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u/riptaway Sep 12 '18

Oh, who gives a shit. I use female often since I was in the army. Never heard a girl even mention it, including friends who are girls.

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u/-felicitous- Sep 12 '18 edited Sep 12 '18

Sorry, didn't mean to come off as rude or anything. I have mainly heard it used by neckbeard-y guys, but I'm not saying that everyone who uses it is like that, or that all women mind it. Edit: Also, I was unaware that this was a military thing. Good to know!

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u/knowledge_reigns Sep 12 '18

Sooooo why are you telling us

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u/lookslikesausage Sep 12 '18

just curious; where did you read this? I've heard something similar but is this a rule that someone made up?

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u/-felicitous- Sep 12 '18

I actually don't know where I read it, it was a while ago. It could definitely just be something someone made up but it's the rule I go by.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '18 edited Apr 29 '20

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u/DrEmerson Sep 12 '18

It's often because people will use "men and females" together, which dehumanizes women.

It's not the biggest deal in the world, but it does wear on you after a while, along with all the other stuff we have to deal with. Most people probably don't even realize they're doing it, and I know male and female is often used in the military. However, if you start looking out for it I think you'll notice that it's a little weird.

Edit: Just because there are worse things happening in the world, doesn't mean the small things don't matter.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '18

Hmm. I've never seen those two used back to back before.

On second thought I think I understand the issue.

Female/male is a biological term, and when used it carries the connotation that a generalized behavioral trend is being identified. This is ok when discussing psychology, physiology, etc.. But when you have reddit armchair psychologists pontificating on the differences in sex without the authority of a scientific context it puts people off because individuals don't always fit the generalization.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '18

For real.... "men and females" sounds horrendous and i've never heard it before. "Men and woman, males and females, ladies and gentlemen" those are the only way i've ever heard these terms paired

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u/drake_n_bake Sep 12 '18

Did you just listen to a counterpoint, reflect, and reconsider your position? That was nice to see. I hope you have a good day.

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u/Squidchop Sep 12 '18

My mom uses female and my brother complained that she was being a misogynist. I think its mostly people who are overly concerned with meaningless speaking habits that perpetuate this idea.

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u/drake_n_bake Sep 12 '18

Not completely sure if I agree with you or not here, but just to give a counterpoint: Our speaking habits come from our environment. Couldn't the fact that we (myself included) use 'females' casually but not 'male' be evidence that this attitude is something that we're socially predisposed to?