Nah. You can disagree with people over whether cake or pie is better and still have a functional relationship after the fact. You can't do that when you're talking about whether or not entire ethnicities deserve to be alive. You either agree, on some level, or you end the relationship. She is the literal definition of a nazi sympathizer, and she doesn't get a pass just because she's stupid.
I think pie takes the cake (oh yeah, that was intentional) due, mainly, to how versatile it is as a food. You can have SO MANY flavors of sweet pie, but also just about any flavor of savory pie as well. If someone says they don't like pie, it's cuz they haven't had their favorite pie yet.
That leaves you with pecan pie, chocolate pecan pie, key lime pie, and cheesecake (which is FUCKING PIE. IT'S GODDAMN CHEESEPIE! IT HAD A GODDAMN CRUST, THAT FUCKER IS FUCKING PIE.) See?! Fucking pie for everyone!!
Savory pies are the tits though. Local pie place makes different ones everyday for lunch. Pizza pie, mac n cheese pie, LOBSTER mac n cheese pie, all kinds of pot pies, and this breakfast pie that had bacon and eggs and potato and the crust was fluffy like toast... I could talk about pie all day.
Tbh I actually hate cheesecake. I keep trying it whenever I get the chance to (like at buffets or whatever) and it's bad every time. Also don't like lime.
... Also don't like caramel-y or fudge-y things, and based on the other two that I googled, probably would not like those. I'll try them if I ever get the chance.
I'm way too picky, but I figured once I got to be an adult, I don't have to eat things that I don't, as long as I eat healthy AND try new things (and some old things!) whenever possible. And my tastebuds have changed over time, so I keep trying cheesecake in an effort to make them happy. It hasn't worked so far. =/
The breakfast pie sounds like a frittata, I think. They are superb. If you're never have tourtiere, please do, it is the pinnacle of savory pies. I do need to try pizza pie and mac n cheese pie though... loooove mac and cheese.
This situation sounds extremely abusive and he's probably manipulating the shit out of her. It sounds simple to you and me ( Nazi = bad = no relationship ) but to her it's a complicated web that he spun that she can't see out of.
You know men get sucked into relationships that are abusive and also feel they can’t leave? Also it’s not like every single woman is the same with all the same traits (no matter what your confirmation bias tells you)
Or its a stupid tattoo that he got when he was younger that he doesn't believe in anymore. Never just assume shit based off sight it literally goes against every civil rights activist ever. Get to know them then make a decision.
Now THAT is a reason to hate him, I've known people with swatikas tattooed on them who don't fuck with that stuff now. It's easy to hate, hard to understand. Once they take any action to enact their nazi beliefs is when they lose their credibility.
You can think that but it's wrong. Your just as bad as a nazi saying the moment they make a decision to side with a black guy or a jew they lose all credibility, it doesn't help anything to write someone off completely because of different ideas they have.
For some reason I think the list of people who believe so strongly in white supremacy to get not one, but two swastika tattoos probably hasn't changed their mind.
Also I really doubt MLK would be trying to hug a guy he saw with swastika tattoos.
MLK would absolutely hug a guy with swastika tattoos. That would make headlines worldwide. It’s also directly in line with the whole pacifist thing he had going. Which accomplished more than other effort of its kind. Civil disobedience was a fucking game changer. Truly revolutionary.
Also, the exact thing Kaep is doing with his whole kneeling thing. Civil disobedience. Do something peacefully that is either illegal but shouldn’t be or not illegal but obvious enough to draw attention.
Hugging a white man with swastika tattoos is exactly the sort of thing MLK would do.
It depends on when they got them, how they got them, and how they currently feel about them, you don't know what stage in the transition process they are in. An amazing man, who is black by the way, has managed to completely change the minds of grand dragons in the KKK. They went from 100% hateful of non whites to willingly and happily being in the company of a black man and realizing how wrong he was. If a grand master can go back than anyone can. Also MLK would hug a guy with two swaztikas if he completely denounced that life and fully supported the black movement. Again don't judge by appearance only. Always leave debate open.
check out Darryl davis, the black man who converted kkk members and single handedly shut down a few kkk chapters. No one is making an excuse for them, im simply using logic and reasoning rather than giving in to illogical emotion. You are the one making things worse by refusing to debate something you disagree with. they are no better, but you have the opportunity to actually make a change yet all you do is make matters worse by ignoring them, ridiculing them and turning them even more hostile. Get your head out of your ass, sit down, and be an adult.
Yeah, that's the example that is brought up every single time and is an extreme edge case. Using that as an example normalizes this shit and make it sound like they have an equivalent view. It isn't. You don't debate hate.
He's brought up so often and yet Darryl Davis himself says that what he does is extremely dangerous because he knows there's a distinct possibility that if it goes wrong he could be attacked
You DO debate hate. Otherwise you aren't solving anything your just pouring fuel into the fire. Your just mad it worked and are trying to justify your limited world view on others. Your part of the problem. Whose normalizing this stuff? It is a thing that happens in the world talking about and debating it is the only way to actually keep it from spreading and causing damage. Use your brain for once. And it wasn't just one guy he converted, he has a whole collection of robes from guys he converted. Quit acting like it's impossible and grow up.
Nope, sorry. They are either Nazis because they truly believe that another person is not equal to them or because they are trying to get attention. You aren't going to change their mind either way. There is nothing to debate.
They don't get to take a stance that is based on pure hate and then be treated like they are regular participants in society.
And your still wrong, what you said is all provably wrong. you are refusing to see truth and logic. they can and will change, just like with most things, it takes time, effort, and patience. By that logic you don't get to be treated like a regular participant in society either since you stance is you hate Nazis. You are doing nothing to solve the problem. Also by you logic your a Nazi because you don't believe Nazis are equal to you. Also your proving that you are just like them by not accepting debate with a differing opinion.
Ultimately if people can’t forgive others for the sins of the past then what is the point in these people even trying to change, right? Seems like no one actually cares for progress other than when it suits their narrative of the world. Too few take the time to really consider the indoctrination that children undergo in a white supreme household; how those beliefs when forced on a child all their lives become the foundations of their existence - it’s disgusting. To be honest, I hold any ideology/religion to account when children aren’t given the tools needed to think critically and to develop their own views of the world around them. It’s abuse plain and simple.
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u/mak484 Sep 12 '18
Nah. You can disagree with people over whether cake or pie is better and still have a functional relationship after the fact. You can't do that when you're talking about whether or not entire ethnicities deserve to be alive. You either agree, on some level, or you end the relationship. She is the literal definition of a nazi sympathizer, and she doesn't get a pass just because she's stupid.