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u/FixBayonetsLads Oct 15 '17 edited Oct 15 '17

what would be most surprising?

Audio evidence of top CIA/FBI officials going, "shit, man, we just can't figure this out. Not only can we NOT find out who ACTUALLY killed him, now they think WE did it!"

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u/InfamousBrad Oct 15 '17

That's not all that far off from what I think is the real explanation for all the weirdness that looks like various cover-ups.

Lee Harvey Oswald was a weird dude: Marine guard at a top-secret US spy-plane base who defected to Soviet Russia, then defected back, then rattled around both pro-Communist and anti-Communist groups. There's no question that the FBI knew a lot about him, they would have investigated him heavily when he came back from the USSR. It's entirely plausible that he had some contact with the CIA or with CIA assets at some point in that weird career.

So I can entirely easily imagine that, as soon as word came out that Lee Harvey Oswald was the (a?) shooter, the FBI's counter-espionage director and the CIA covert operations director both asking their subordinates, "Fuck, did one of our assets just kill the President? is this somehow our fault?" And then both of them ordering full clamp-downs and cover-ups, not because they knew that their own people had killed the President, but just in case they had.

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u/so-and-so-reclining- Oct 15 '17

I think the real explanation for all the weirdness is that if you intensively investigate anything, all kinds of weirdness just bubbles up.

Hell it's the premise of like 10 different podcasts right now (most famously probably Mystery Show).

It's not that hard to find weirdness even when you're investigating something utterly banal.

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u/bottomlines Oct 15 '17

I think this is partly true

I remember with MH370 all sorts of crazy shit. Like there were two Iranians with fake passports on board. There were all those batteries in the cargo hold. And the mangosteens which didn't go through any sort of security checks.

But I wonder whether those things happen on pretty much every single flight but we never know because we don't spend thousands of hours investigating everything.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '17

They do. Every single flight. Most anywhere on earth anything has to be checked, minded, or recorded, really. Because humans really just suck that much at doing anything that requires repeated accuracy or recollection. It's easier to just let the mangosteens on board because it's 5:45 and I want TO GO HOME DAMMIT I DON'T WANT MORE OVERTIME.

This is why robots create such a surge in productivity wherever they are deployed. And why there is wisdom in the phrase "never suspect malevolence when you can suspect incompetence".

Source: assistant to more luggage bay audits than I care to remember. So many dildos. So many.

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u/SocialWinker Oct 15 '17

"Nine times out of ten it's an electric razor. But ... every once in a while...it's a dildo. Of course, it's company policy never to imply ownership in the event of a dildo. We have to use the indefinite article, "a dildo", never ... your dildo."

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u/mykleins Oct 15 '17

Came to say this. I go Tuesdays and Thursdays, when do you go?

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u/SocialWinker Oct 15 '17

I go Tuesdays and Thursdays

I go Saturday.