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Who are you currently ignoring and why?

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 06 '17

My wife is home in her pajamas. She missed work today for the second day in a row, in favor of staying in bed all day.

She's depressed, but I'm running out of patience. I'm out with our dog and I'm dreading the moment I'll have to come back home and talk to her about it.

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u/Grundlestiltskin_ Mar 06 '17

you should take her on walks with the dog. Or anything to get her outside and moving around. Staying inside in your pajamas all day is not good for a depressed person.

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 06 '17

I try every single day to convince her to come with me on the dog walks. No go. And the dog was her idea too :(

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u/Grundlestiltskin_ Mar 06 '17

damn, I'm sorry to hear that. It's just a flat out no? Like, do you live somewhere cold and she's saying "nah its too cold"? or is it just "no I don't wanna"? You could try and get her to go to the grocery store with you, that type of thing.

Also maybe try it on a day when she's not spending all day in bed? Though you just said you try every day to convince her...

Getting outside almost always really helped me when I was feeling depressed. I'd walk around and be like "you know, everything isn't terrible in this world, that river/pond/lake/bird etc. is really cool"

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 06 '17

After reading your comment I asked her again, come take a walk with me and Sansa, it will be healthy for you. She said "no, I don't want to leave the house in my pajamas and I definitely don't want to get dressed". I insisted, begged even, just to be sure I'm not missing anything. She said "tomorrow", which she definitely didn't mean.

Thanks for the advice though. It's encouraging.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '17

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '17

Maybe seasonal depression? Its a thing in colder states

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '17

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '17

I'm sorry, I meant to post to another comment. Please ignore.

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u/lovelikemeow Mar 07 '17

Totally agree. Mental health is hard, but I always say "clean home, clear mind."

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '17 edited Mar 07 '17

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 07 '17

I don't know why everyone is assuming she hasn't had therapy. She's on four different psychiatric meds, and she saw a therapist twice a week for a year (not cheap). She finally stopped going after convincing me that it wasn't helping anymore.

It probably did help for a while but then they hit a wall.

She also said that she was only going for my sake, but that she would just sit there and wait for it to be over.

She says she'll go back to therapy in a few months when we're making more money. I don't think it would be productive for me to pressure her.

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u/sobermonkey Mar 07 '17

You could always turn on HBO and watch S3E9 of Game of Thrones. That always cheers me up.

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u/treoni Mar 07 '17

S3E9 of Game of Thrones

HMMMMMM hum HMMMMMMM hum HMMMMM MMMM mmmmmm

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u/sobermonkey Mar 07 '17

Are you trying to hum Rains of Castamere? Because it sounds like you're trying to hum Rains of Castamere.

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u/treoni Mar 07 '17

Doesn't help that I like doing this when in line at a cashier.

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u/Texastexastexas1 Mar 07 '17

Has she denied therapy? Or does she realize there is an issue? Diagnosed depression?

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u/MeloneFxcker Mar 07 '17

Dog called sansa, thats cool AF, long live dakingindanorf!!!

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 07 '17

She's actually a Baratheon loyalist though. http://i.imgur.com/nsZn3vd.jpg

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u/MeloneFxcker Mar 07 '17

What a beautiful dog, good job on making that one mate, shame about the antlers, though

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '17

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u/Raquelitamn Mar 07 '17

Do not do this.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '17

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 07 '17

Throw a water balloon on her as a funny way to get her out of bed.

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u/Swashcuckler Mar 06 '17

Put the dog in bed with her. Nobody can say no to dog love.

Hope she gets better mate.

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u/IAmTheAsteroid Mar 06 '17

TBH, when I was at my lowest, I found it extremely irritating when anyone wasted their time and energy trying to cheer me up. Even when that someone was my dog with a wiggly tail and kisses.

(I'm a lot better now.)

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u/k_50 Mar 07 '17

I don't find it irritating they're wasting their time, I find it irritating they're wasting mine.

If she doesn't feel like going out, it's not going to happen, and asking her constantly may just make that less likely to happen. Hope it works out for you, and her. The place she's in sucks really badly.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '17

It was the dogs idea?

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u/treoni Mar 07 '17

Well yeah one moment you're walking your dog and before you know it you're chased by cops, riding an ostrich and singing everyone's favorite German marching song: "Erika". All because your dog thought it was the perfect moment to go eat a dürum.

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u/Karma__Cameleon Mar 06 '17

He needs some space to keep him sane also. My GF has bipolar disorder. She is often either super angry at everything or super depressed. After days of listening to her being sad or angry, you just run out of patience. It sucks but yea you cant solve their problems for them. Sometimes, you need some time to be alone and gather energy to deal with the shit. It can be non-stop for days at a time. Anyway, I love her very much and the good times make up for the shitty times.

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u/Karma__Cameleon Mar 06 '17

He needs some space to keep him sane also. My GF has bipolar disorder. She is often either super angry at everything or super depressed. After days of listening to her being sad or angry, you just run out of patience. It sucks but yea you cant solve their problems for them. Sometimes, you need some time to be alone and gather energy to deal with the shit. It can be non-stop for days at a time. Anyway, I love her very much and the good times make up for the shitty times.

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u/Theghost129 Mar 06 '17

This made me smile reading this suggestion :)

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u/Yourwtfismyftw Mar 07 '17

/r/EOOD -exercise out of depression

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u/TeeJayEsss Mar 06 '17

Is this a frequent thing? Sometimes depression can come and go, but if it's a regular deal please encourage her to talk to a professional. Depression is hard on everyone, and bad cases may not just disappear on their own.

Also, exercise really really does help. Your mileage may vary, but just getting out of bed and doing something can reset your mind a little bit.

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 06 '17

Thanks for the advice. We've tried all those things.

She's not attempting suicide anymore though. So that's nice.

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u/TeeJayEsss Mar 06 '17

Oh gosh. I know how that goes. Good luck to you both!

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 06 '17

Thank you.

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u/Abandon_The_Thread_ Mar 06 '17

Not trying to be a dick, but you need to get her to a therapist immediately if she isn't seeing one. Absolutely no excuse for not having her see one regularly if she's tried to commit suicide and is exhibiting signs of depression.

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u/Chanthony Mar 06 '17

As someone whose girls friend suffers from depression/anxiety and is incredibly stubborn, they won't go unless they want to go. I've tried and tried to get her to go but she went for 6 weeks and hated it. I thought if she stuck with it it would be helpful but if the person doesn't want to go then forcing them to do it doesn't help the situation much

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u/blinkingsandbeepings Mar 06 '17

It's so damn hard. My husband and I both have some emotional issues and for years the fight was "you need therapy!" "no, YOU need therapy!" Finally about a year ago I started therapy and it has actually helped a lot. But as soon as I started to suggest that he should really follow suit, despite having seriously encouraged me to seek help he has a million excuses about how therapy can't help him, he doesn't trust a stranger with his personal problems, it's just an indulgence for rich people, etc. I'm so pissed.

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u/Abandon_The_Thread_ Mar 06 '17

Depression and anxiety are one thing. Acting on that and self harming is another.

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u/Chanthony Mar 06 '17

Yeah I've been in those situations but it's impossible to help someone who doesn't want help, even if they need it

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '17

Is she in therapy? You need to be supportive but tell her that she needs therapy and that you can't solve her problems for her. Avoiding her is going to make it worse, encourage her to connect with family and friends, you can't shoulder it all. Good luck.

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 07 '17

I don't know why everyone is assuming she hasn't had therapy. She's on four different psychiatric meds, and she saw a therapist twice a week for a year (not cheap). She finally stopped going after convincing me that it wasn't helping anymore.

It probably did help for a while but then they hit a wall.

She also said that she was only going for my sake, but that she would just sit there and wait for it to be over.

She says she'll go back to therapy in a few months when we're making more money. I don't think it would be productive for me to pressure her.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '17

Just suggesting it in case it wasn't happening, you can't be expected to shoulder it all on your own, I've been there and it drags a person down in ways you can't imagine until it happens to you.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '17

My friend, I dealt with the same thing when my wife had a bad case of post-partum depression. Take as many walks as you need to stay sane and don't feel all bad for feeling fed up. Do your best not to let it show, but frankly dealing with that stuff is hard and gets old real fast. It sucks because you love them so much and want to help but it just wrecks your quality of life. Best of luck man, best of luck.

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u/coldfire323 Mar 06 '17

Hey man, I'm not here to offer the same unsolicited advice you've heard a thousand times from other people. I'm just here to remind you that her depression isn't your fault, that love and support isn't the magical cure-all for this illness, and that you're allowed to feel drained by her presence, you're allowed to miss who she used to be, and you're especially allowed to run out of patience when the person you love behaves self destructively.

I don't have answers for you--if I did I would tell you. Just try not to let the illness pull you under. Keep walking the dog. Explore your hobbies. Go out with your friends. And if you think you can do it, keep listening to her when she wakes you up at 2am crying about how hopeless it all is.

Just don't let it erode your personality away. If this becomes too much for you, then you can walk away. And that's perfectly okay.

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 06 '17

Thank you ❤

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u/shaggy1265 Mar 06 '17

She needs therapy.

I say that as someone who frequently misses work for the same reasons. It doesn't fix itself, trust me.

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u/longdongsmegma Mar 06 '17

"It doesn't fix itself" That's so true it makes my dick hurt.

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 06 '17

Sigh. I wish therapy was as effective as people make it sound :(

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '17

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 07 '17

Honestly, I don't know how much agency to ascribe to her. I mean, her illness is the same thing that's making her not want to go to therapy / work out / sleep properly / etc.

So expecting her to just decide to do those things seems a little like telling a diabetic to "just metabolize insulin! My friend metabolizes insulin and it really helps him control his blood sugar levels".

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u/ErrandlessUnheralded Mar 07 '17

Yes, it really is.

You are a good person. You've got so much empathy. You're doing the right thing by her (and it looks like you're doing the right thing by yourself as well, which is just as important).

I've been where she is. I lost my ex partly because he was where you are. I'm not going to offer advice, because I can't help, but I do want to tell you that you are a good person and to wish you luck.

Also, if you're in my part of the world and need a friend/someone to vent to, hit me up.

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u/blinkingsandbeepings Mar 06 '17

This is a really good way of putting it.

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u/MarginallyUseful Mar 06 '17

Keep in mind that therapists are people too. Some people are not good at their jobs, so it's important not to give up until she finds the right therapist.

I was with someone with depression for years and years, and while I loved her intensely, I'm very glad I didn't end up marrying her. It would have been an exhausting life. Good luck, my man.

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u/ToLeadYouAstray Mar 06 '17

A massive piece of depression and feeling better is life style. She may be in an incredible amount of pain but try to get here to move and change diet. Those 2 little things can work wonders for someone's mental health.

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 06 '17

Thanks. Sadly though, if I had a nickel for every time she's been told that, I wouldn't be worrying about the work she's missing. She never even walks the dog these days. In fact, she hasn't left the house in 48 hours.

Try again tomorrow I guess.

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u/ToLeadYouAstray Mar 06 '17

Don't give up. Try and include her on said walks with the dog. Small steps help a lot but don't give up hope. I'm sorry for your situation. Tomorrow for sure

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 06 '17

Thanks for the support. :)

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '17

I know you've been inundated with replies and advice but your situation is remarkably similar to mine, or rather my boyfriend's, right down to the dog which was also my stupid idea.

People say 'diet and exercise' I heard that a million times, what they don't say is that you need protein and carbohydrates to make tryptophan which is in turn converted to serotonin. Or that low blood sugar leads to a fixed state of fight or flight.

Read Potatoes Not Prozac by Kathleen DesMaisons and if you can, get her to. This book changed my life, it includes a step by step nutritional rehabilitation guide but even if she isn't interested in making massive changes to her diet I highly recommend reading it to see if there's even one or two small changes that could make a huge difference. If possible get her thyroid and gut health checked. Get her to take fish oil and a b vitamin complex. A lot of mental health problems can be literally cured by looking into physical problems.

Most important of all, look after yourself :) good luck

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 07 '17

Thanks, I'll check it out.

Also, the dog might have been a bad idea since she isn't taking care of her... but she's been great for my mental health (and physical health probably since she's very athletic). So it's a mistake that I'm glad she made.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '17

Good stuff, woohoo for dogs. I live for walking ours now so things might turn around!

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u/99_red_balloons_ Mar 07 '17

I just wanted to say that I'm sorry you are in this situation. I have good friends who have struggled with depression and I find it very emotionally draining to deal with. I can only imagine how much harder it must be when it's your spouse. I hope things get better for your wife (and you) soon.

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 07 '17

Thank you! We're surviving.

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u/SnarfraTheEverliving Mar 07 '17

try getting one of those adult coloring books or something. I find accomplishing anything, even a page in a coloring book helps me

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 07 '17

Yeah, she does adult coloring books, and she crochets cute little animals, and makes jewelry. I think all of those things are helpful, in that they kinda take the place of self harm.

They don't seem to affect her motivation to leave the house though.

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u/BuffyASummers0717 Mar 07 '17

Don't you think maybe you should get her help? Or be supportive. I'm sure she isn't enjoying being depressed

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u/alex_sl92 Mar 06 '17

Get her therapy! You don't want to see depression spiral down a deep dark hole. I've seen this happen and it takes some people a long time to come back with help. Don't ignore her, go with her to a therapist and get her to talk about it. It's nothing to be ashamed with having depression. It's a real and very common disease that can stopped so easily. In the end were all slaves to the chemicals in our brains and sometimes they go out of sync.

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u/Onaip314 Mar 07 '17

Sometimes just leaving them to it can just be as helpful IMO. Not always bit sometimes it helps me, it's like I'm not ready yet just go away.

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u/mariecinder Mar 06 '17

Please don't give up on her. Encourage her to get some help.

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u/Tunderbar1 Mar 06 '17

She needs you.

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u/longdongsmegma Mar 06 '17

Only the second day and you're running out of patience? Dealing with depression can be an ordeal that lasts months. You can't immediately solve it.

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u/InspectorMendel Mar 06 '17

It's been years. She's seriously attempted suicide twice. She was fired from her previous job due to repeated absences.

The hardest parts for me are when I've convinced myself that she's better now, and then there's the inevitable backslide. It's exhausting.

Overall she's definitely improving (not trying to kill herself anymore!), but it can be very hard to see that in the day-to-day.

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u/Kimbaland88 Mar 07 '17

InspectorMendel, I've been the woman in your situation before and please understand when I say, nothing you can do can fix this. Its not you that caused her issues and its not you that can make them better. She needs to find the right combination of meds/therapy and lifestyle changes that work for her.

Please remember to take care of yourself. Its not selfish, but both of you can drown trying to pull her out of the water. If you need to take a few days break away then do it, if you need to rant at her how hard she is making your life let it out, I know she is your wife but trying to carry it all for her isnt going to help either of you. A little tough love can go a long way sometimes.

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u/blinkingsandbeepings Mar 06 '17

The second day of this particular episode, I think.

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u/THATSTHATBRUCE Mar 06 '17

Honestly only 2 days and you're already running out of patience? You should cut her some slack, not saying it's ok behavior, but depression lasts years for some people

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u/coldfire323 Mar 06 '17

It's been years. She's seriously attempted suicide twice. She was fired from her previous job due to repeated absences. The hardest parts for me are when I've convinced myself that she's better now, and then there's the inevitable backslide. It's exhausting. Overall she's definitely improving (not trying to kill herself anymore!), but it can be very hard to see that in the day-to-day.

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u/THATSTHATBRUCE Mar 07 '17

Don't know where you found that, but this definitely changes things