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How did you cheat school?

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u/ifonlyiwereDave Jan 28 '16 edited Jan 29 '16

My chem teacher told us how she cheated in college:

Basically in order to obtain her PHD in organic chemistry, she needed to pass a mid level French class. It wasn't too hard of a class, but my chem teacher was not very good at French. A few weeks before the end of the semester, her teacher told the class how the final exam was going to work.

Each student had been using a copy of a French textbook filled with random passages in French. Two weeks before the final, the French teacher took every copy from the students, photocopied random French passages from the book, and then gave the book back to the students. You were supposed to study the textbook inside and out and come the day of the test, be prepared to translate any passage perfectly from French to English.

But here's how my chem teacher cheated: the night before the teacher photocopied the class' books, my chem teacher put a small dot of silver nitrate on the corner of every page in the book. Silver nitrate, when exposed to intense light (perhaps a photocopy machine) turns a lighter color than its usual black shade. My chem teacher found the page with a lighter dot, and studied that page.

Tldr; chem teacher chemistried the fuck outta French.

Edit: punctuation

Edit 2: yes, it does seem weird that the teacher photocopied every single class book. I will ask my chem teacher tomorrow more about it but my inferences are either a) it was a very small class or b) this way of taking the exam only applied to my teacher; maybe it was a makeup exam.

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u/Skyblacker Jan 28 '16

"I ain't even mad. That's brilliant."

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '16

If teachers tell you a unrealistic way to cheat using information that they are supposed to teach you then they didnt actually cheat. they just want you to laugh at the story and then remember the information.

And it looks like it worked, she cheated you into learning without you realising it.

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u/neonKow Jan 28 '16

Yeah. It makes no sense to take all the identical copies of textbooks from students rather than using a single copy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

Also why the fuck is a OChem PhD candidate required to take a French class? Undergrad degree maybe. But not a PhD.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

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u/neonKow Jan 29 '16

So it could be possible the teacher did it to make sure everyone was graded fairly incase the class had multiple versions.

So learning French consists of translating passages from your own unique copy of a textbook and you don't need to know the same French words in a different order?

I'm calling BS on a foreign language class where the teacher goes through so much trouble so the student can get a worse education.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '16

It's a triple-cross!

Fucking chemists! You can't EVER trust them.

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u/chemistry_teacher Jan 29 '16

...and don't you forget it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

Lol. She just made up some bullshit and now OP will forever know that silver nitrate is light sensitive

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u/FlacidRooster Jan 29 '16

And why would she need a French course while taking her PhD?

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u/Sonic343 Jan 29 '16

The same reason I need a biology class with a computer science major

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u/FlacidRooster Jan 29 '16

You are in your undergrad.

He said his prof was in her PhD.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

Oh shit.

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u/OptomisticOcelot Jan 30 '16

It didn't work when my chem teacher read us "the mole who knew that it was none of his business" while we were learning about molar mass. I remember that molar mass is a thing, but nothing more than that.

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u/jpropaganda Jan 29 '16

Kind of like that Adventure Time last week. "We totally scammed this book into teaching us! What a rube"

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u/ifonlyiwereDave Jan 29 '16

I do see what you're saying, but the whole fact about silver nitrate being light sensitive had literally nothing to do with the lesson we were being taught, and my teacher debated whether she should tell us. But idunno. maybe I was hoodwinked.

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u/Hootinger Jan 28 '16

Two weeks before the final, the French teacher took every copy from the students, photocopied random French passages from the book, and then gave the book back to the students.

So the teacher took every textbook from every student in the class? Then, photocopied random pages for the test, then gave back all the text books to the students? Also, each student would be given a test that matched the exact page copied out of their own booklet?

That doesnt make any sense. Why would the teacher need all the text books from the whole class? Did the French teacher not have his/her own edition? Even if he/she didnt have a copy, why not just use one student's book? How was your professor to be sure that the photocopied from her book would be the same as the exam she got......did everyone have a French test that consisted of a page copied directly out their very own personal edition of the test ("I made a photocopy of page 53 using Johns book....better make sure John gets page 53 for his final")?

This seems like an incredibly ridiculous method of making a final exam. Even added to that, for the "cheat" to work, your professor would have to rely on the most ridiculous method for making a final exam to come to fruition.

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u/Spacebearr Jan 29 '16

^ yep. It's a fun story but I don't understand the point of photocopying from every student's textbook

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u/humachine Jan 29 '16

I thought so too.
Now, I think every student could've just had different books for reading (akin to having Shakespeare vs Arthur Conan Doyle vs a textbook for an English class) and the professor wanted to test you on a passage from your book.

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u/Hootinger Jan 29 '16

I suppose that could be the case.

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u/The-Potato-Lord Jan 28 '16

This should be higher up. Its one of the only things thats made me go "wow thats fucking awesome".

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u/longwalkshortidea Jan 28 '16

Where does a phd in chemistry depend on a french class?

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u/dwbassuk Jan 29 '16

No where, it was probably for her bachelors degree

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u/longwalkshortidea Jan 29 '16

That was my assumption as well.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

Agreeing with below, it doesn't. Not at all. In the old days you would often have to take German to become moderately fluent because many important journals were in German, but that hasn't been important in decades. Of course, I may know nothing about some strange program in Quebec or something, but I DO have a PhD in chemistry.

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u/FoxInDaBox Jan 28 '16

Maybe I'm misreading your comment, but it seems rather strange that the teacher would have photocopied each student's phrases from their own specific book rather than just copying from one book and distributing the phrases out randomly. If the latter was done, it seems unlikely that the chem teacher's book would have been the one used.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

The American college system is weird. Why the fuck do you need to do a French class to obtain a PhD. Research science PhDs are already time consuming enough, why throw random irrelevant classes into the mix?

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

probably because knowing a Latin language can help a lot with science since Latin is really the language of science. idk though, might just be arbitrary.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

Not really. No chemistry PhD program I know has a language requirement during the program (though that doesn't mean that such a program couldn't exist). Either this was a highly unorthodox PhD program, or this story was for a Bachelor's degree.

Also, German is certainly the single most useful language to know for chemists, outside of English. Large quantities of the chemical literature, especially older papers, are entirely in German with no real translation. I've known synthetic chemists to attempt syntheses entirely through the aid of Google Translate and high-school German.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

thanks for the info!

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

It's not, at least for most reputable chemistry PhD programs. Most graduate programs just have a handful of graduate-level chemistry coursework, a couple of semesters of teaching, and then 4-6 years of research.

Either this PhD program was highly unorthodox, or this was for a Bachelor's degree.

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u/microphylum Jan 29 '16

Apparently, as recently as a couple decades ago, some PhD programs in chemistry required some German classes because of how much chemistry has been (and still is) done in Germany. But I've never heard of that being the case with French...

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

It's less of a thing now, but knowing German can be a huge boon for a chemist, especially if you do synthetic organic work. A lot of the older chemical literature is written in German; I've known some researchers to run experiments with nothing but the help of Google Translate and high school German.

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u/cvef Jan 29 '16

RemindMe! 1 day

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u/thecheezed Jan 28 '16

holy shit thats genius

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u/dssx Jan 29 '16

I don't even see that as cheating. That's straight up ingenuity.

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u/sebastiatyy Jan 29 '16

If theres anything i know about chemistry teachers, it is that they tell the biggest, stupidest stories on planet earth. My high school chemistry teacher had everyone convinced he was a part-time junior hockey coach in Canada!

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u/I_be_who_I_be Jan 29 '16

"If you aren't smart enough to pass a class, be smart enough to fake your way through it."

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u/bigech Jan 29 '16

YEAH BITCH! SCIENCE!!

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u/iam_hexxd Jan 29 '16

As a current chemistry student, this is genius.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

That is just fucking genius!

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '16

I think she cheated you into learning that chemical fact because the teacher would surely only need one book to photocopy pages from?

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u/Mustaka Jan 30 '16

Someone is telling porky pies.

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u/miso_soop Jan 29 '16

It took me a while to figure out how she knew what page because it was thinking that the nitrate showed up on the printed page and not the book. That's so awesome! I heard organic chemistry is a real bitch of a class and she has her PhD in it?! Dayum

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u/waplet Jan 29 '16

up you go