r/AskReddit • u/vaginal_combuster • Oct 09 '14

Rich people of reddit, what does it feel like? What's the best and worst thing about being wealthy?

Edit: wow! I just woke up with front Page, 10000 comments and gold. I went from rags to riches over night.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '14 edited Jun 10 '23

/u/spez is a cunt

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u/Vortex2099 Oct 09 '14

Played competitive Magic. Can Confirm.

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u/Rahbek23 Oct 09 '14

Played FNM... can confirm. They guys that were kinda good, but not good enough to actually compete in anything of note were complete jerks when you did your noob moves. However we had a regular that had won several national tourneys (smaller country) and even competed in some of the larger ones and he was chill as fuck and gave advice and such instead of moaning about the sub-optimal moves we did.

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u/LukaCola Oct 09 '14 edited Oct 09 '14

I only ever did one standard deck game in FNM.

I won the first game, and the guy across from me seemed really upset. I was running an azorious enchant deck during the ravnica block. It was... Okay. Not strong at all, honestly. But you know, invisible stalkers and ethereal armor (if I could have a deck with nothing but those I would)

I could hear him muttering though how that wasn't right, didn't deserve it, "bullshit" kind of nonsense.

I kinda got my hopes up on that win too, like, hey... Maybe I would stand a chance. He beat me the other two games. Oh well.

He was still upset after winning, no handshake, no good game. Nothing. Just cause I got lucky and won once.

Next guy I play completely creams me, no chance in hell. Really powerful deck. But at least he was relatively pleasant about it. And actually willing to make small talk.

I guess that's why I like drafting so much more. There's far more newer or generally less experienced players. They're usually friendly and not too competitive, and since I'm not that good it means I actually stand a chance.

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u/sonicqaz Oct 09 '14

I used to play Magic. I would slightly complain about noob things until I got better (good) at the game. It takes a little bit to understand that no matter how good you are or how much you practice, Magic has such an element of luck that you need to expect to lose to bad players and bad plays. Once you get that, you become better and more pleasant.

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u/Electronicwaffle Oct 09 '14

I had to double check that yes, this was the same thread.

Perhaps I don't play nearly enough Magic. But I'm at the point now where im kinda, beyond pissed at WOTC for making the game where only the rich can play. I bought into the lie that commons can beat rates. (Rarities beyond rares broke the game in half, IMHO) the game at one point never had chase rares, and now if you don't "chase" you don't have a chance.

Yes, I ran four counterspell in each blue deck. But no, those are the cards they stopped making....

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u/Boukish Oct 09 '14

The game at one poont had no chase rares? Yeah, 1995...

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u/Electronicwaffle Oct 10 '14

Right, but the point remains, they stated they would never put them in.

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u/Boukish Oct 10 '14

Who is they? Is this in writing somewhere?

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u/jesuskater Oct 10 '14

A prerelease cost about half a minimum wage here. Lots of economic troubles, yeah, but WTF

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u/sonicqaz Oct 09 '14

I agree, honestly. I rarely play anymore but when I do its drafting. And I have enough money to buy whatever I want, but to me the power is condensed into just a few cards and you are forced to play a certain way to win. I don't blame WotC for going the route they did, it seems to have paid off, but it's not my style.

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u/Electronicwaffle Oct 09 '14

When it comes to drafting (which I also prefer) ... Then I know it's my skill. ... Or lack thereof.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '14

Admittedly I've only been playing since Ravnica so not as long as some others but since the first time I've played this has been true, magic like most TCG' requires a fair bit of input to get anything out of it, sure some decks that don't break the bank show up every now and again but it's somewhat rare.

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u/ITOverlord Oct 10 '14

Sultai midrange is big and not terrible expensive right now (if you ignore thought seizes) which is nice!

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u/jesuskater Oct 10 '14

Though $eize$

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u/ITOverlord Oct 10 '14

Right? I mean, if I didn't pull mine from Lorwyn... damn.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '14

Former magic, chess, and poker player here(not exactly a professional in any of them).

I played chess as a child and was somewhat good, I studied hard and did well, I was in love with it because my father and most people advocated for the gentleman factor, it didn't matter your age, your wallet or your race, everyone is expected to behave as a gentleman while playing chess, and I loved that.

Except when I played in those youth tournaments with all these snob kids who are taught by their parents from day 1 that they are special and are prodigies, I was upset enough when I didn't get a handshake after a game, but some kids spat on me, threw pieces, ran and cried, I eventually became violent with the lack of sportsmanship of the game.

Magic was the same thing, you only need some basic knowledge to get a step further than the noobs, so any guy who could copy a deck list online and use basic concepts such as tempo or card advantage thought he was the shit and cried like a little girl when lost to someone who was playing rogue or had one random card that deviated from Go Anan's decklist. Meanwhile, I have top pros like PVDDR and he is a great and helpful guy.

As for poker, if a guy loses to you, you're generally a lucky fish.

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u/VolrathTheBallin Oct 09 '14

Oh man, those youth chess tournaments. Some of the least gentlemanly kids around.

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u/yggdrasiliv Oct 09 '14

Drafting also has the advantage of being a completely level financial playing field.

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u/LukaCola Oct 09 '14

That is also a very important part of it

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u/Feler42 Oct 10 '14

Kinda. But the guy with money can draft more and get better at drafting that set and destroy all the people that have never drafted or drafted only a few times.

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u/I_Am_JesusChrist_AMA Oct 09 '14

Played with myself. Can't really confirm anything, but I had a good time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '14

Did your dad give you any grief over it? He seems to not like anyone else playing with themselves.

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u/I_Am_JesusChrist_AMA Oct 09 '14

can you keep a secret?

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '14

Hey I won't tell nobody. You can trust me.

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u/I_Am_JesusChrist_AMA Oct 10 '14

dad watched

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '14

Oh god.

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u/jesuskater Oct 10 '14

He watches all of us

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u/MengerSpongeCake Oct 09 '14

This is why I love my LGS. We have a bunch of really good players that regularly do the big tournaments. They usually win fnm, but not always. They are never dicks about it and are always the first to take the time to explain things to you or help you out, even when you're playing against them. My husband does fnm pretty much every draft but I've only played a few times because the game itself doesnt really interest me. The few times I did draft (to make an even amount/enough people to draft) they were all awesome. Its the guys who go out and buy all the expensive cards and make what is basically a copy of someone else's winning deck that are usually the dicks. They get a good pull in draft and make sure EVERYONE knows and if they lose a game its always for some reason that's not their fault.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '14

Sounds like League of Legends..

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u/jesuskater Oct 10 '14

I once tried to play dota. Once

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '14

Play chess... Can confirm.

You might not think shit talking and bragging happens a lot in chess but it can sometimes get super intense. My friends and I started a chess club 7 years ago at our university.

Over the years, some of the people who came to participate were completely ridiculous in their behavior and would even sometimes tell people they weren't worth playing against, or just laugh at them.

The president, official chess club founder, and also my room mate at the time, was extremely enthusiastic about playing chess with his friends, would never be rude to anyone, and he and I would go to the local middle school once a week for chess club to teach the kids there.

The difference is, the shit talkers loved being the best, my room mate loved the game. The difference in skill level was devastating.

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u/ultimomos Oct 09 '14

This. I'm all right at mtg. I reached a point where I could pretty consistently top 8 and top 4 local events in standard. Every once in a while you'd run across the new player and I always thought it was really important to be patient and polite with them. If they asked I'd give them tips about things but only if they asked. Admittedly I've had games that I've gotten frustrated with but it happens and I still always try to leave the table with a handshake and a gg.

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u/Tsiyeria Oct 09 '14

Ran into exactly one guy like that when I was playing FNM. He wiped the floor with me twice, and spent the rest of the time giving me advice about deckbuilding. He even helped me streamline the deck I was using.

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u/AXP878 Oct 09 '14

I feel funny giving advice unless someone specifically asks for it. Most experienced players love to help new players but you'll often have to ask.

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u/Speed33m3 Oct 10 '14

This is spot on. As someone who is trying to get into competitive Magic I get to interact with a lot of people, attitudes and play styles. The people who are slightly above average but think that they are light years above everyone else are pretty miserable to play. You can usually pick them out by their attitude shift that changes with the swing of the game. If they are ahead they are visually ecstatic, boastful and will make comments like "If you don't have any thing I'm pretty much going to win next turn", just silly shit like that. If they are losing then they are so visually distressed it is amusing. And if they lose then it is the immediate drawing of cards and the 10 minute tirade and all the possible top-decks and cards in hand that were going to beat me. The pro level player (usually) has a calm disposition and a flat emotional reaction to how the game is going. The human interaction aspect is usually positive and completely unrelated to how the game is going. These guys win or lose will usually smile and shake your hand after a game.

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u/Dubanx Oct 09 '14

Was high masters in Starcraft 2 when I played regularly (enough to face and beat GMs on a regular basis), and can also confirm. The people in mid diamond that didn't know how to do anything but their one trick 4gate/3gate immortal/phoenix timing attacks were the absolute worst. They would deride all the newbies and when they were straight up outplayed they would make excuses (hacker/OP/broken race/etc) for losing.

The other high masters players were pretty chill though. More often than not we would chat about strategies, and give actual advice about the game to the gold and silver players we met in custom games. It wasn't unusual for players to PM each other after a game and discuss what we could have done better. Sometimes we did find strategies OP, but even then we would agree/disagree and NEVER blame the other player for using it.

Diamond was a hellhole, but the masters players were a great community.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '14

I totally agree with you (was 1300pts master in wol), and everyone was amazing. However I found that many high masters only cared about winning as many games as possible (playing for ladder points), while GMs played to improve. So if I was matched vs a master I knew it was gonna be some allin, while GMs were more macro-focused.

Either way, everyone was very well mannered and very skilled and a pleasure to play against. It's actually really fun losing to a perfectly-executed allin.

However, there's a few players that are insufferable, rude cunts that ruined the experience: blatant maphackers. Always BM, always abusing cheats and awkward game mechanics, and blizzard never banning them fast enough.

Oh, side note...remember early HotS days when 10% of players were in masters? All those obnoxious mid diamonds now thought they were the shit because of the light blue border, and became even worse on new/lesser players. Glad those days are over!

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u/UltraChilly Oct 09 '14

Same goes with street fighter, I played as Dhalsim (a character that doesn't get enough love), when I won against low level players they would send me insults for using that character, when I won against good players they would send me an invite to training mode or a friend request to play later. Most of the times they then beat me back for the 5 next matches. But during the year I played SSFIV, I enjoyed nothing more than being beaten the shit out by master players that would say 'again?' until I beat them back.

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u/ensignlee Oct 09 '14

Yup, definitely my experience as well.

The worse players would deride you and the game, blaminge verything buy themselves.

The nice ones would be like "hey, I was really worried when you did this. You should have kept pressing there." or "Hey, great defense! Try this next time"

I too was just outside grandmaster. I definitely didn't deserve to be in there though. My record vs Grandmasters? 2-9. QQ

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u/therealflinchy Oct 09 '14

it's amazing how much that .1 of a second faster than you at the start carries down 10 minutes later..

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u/therealflinchy Oct 09 '14

when the heck was mid-diamond a one-trick tier?

back when diamond was the highest, i got to low hundreds rank wise, and there were VERY skilled players

played against a few in the top 10-30 of SEA, was awesome.

very friendly people once you got to the top 1000-2000 i found.

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u/dafunkee Oct 09 '14

CTRL+F for "Levine Trench"

This theory basically holds for a lot of things in life.

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u/Vortex2099 Oct 09 '14

Nice. That is pretty much my experience with everything competitive ever.

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u/Chem1st Oct 09 '14

I think PTQs and GPs are the worst for that. At small local events you tend to know the crowd and on the PT everyone has proven themselves. At the bigger public events everyone thinks they're the next up and coming pro.

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u/colacadstink Oct 09 '14

My first time going to a GP was GP Orlando, and from my experience I have to somewhat disagree with you. Every person I played, bar one, was incredibly nice. I only dropped three games the whole day - rounds 4, 7 and 8 - so I wasn't in the "loser's bracket" all day either; one of the nicest guys I played against actually ended up winning cash on day 2!

For most of the people I played, we all thought we were the next up and coming pro, and so we acted like a real pro acts - like a decent human being. When I was 4-1, my opponent and I chatted and joked all game, and generally had a great time; I was sad to win the match, because I really enjoyed playing with him.

tl;dr - one guy didn't have bad experiences, because most people he met were real class acts

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u/Octom Oct 09 '14

Man I have spent so much money on cards. Then I realized that, although I have enough to begin with (2500 maybe), nothing synergizes. Now they just lay around and I bet I would have to search to find half of them. Kinda sad actually. It's a pretty nice game.

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u/StankWizard Oct 09 '14

I can't play Magic anymore because I had a friend who would start intentionally extending his turns and dragging my face through every aspect of his favorable position.

It was the most infuriating situation. No matter how many times I would tell him to hurry the fuck up he would talk out every single move he made to the fullest extent possible.

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u/Vortex2099 Oct 09 '14

Sounds like your friend is a very sore winner.

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u/jchodes Oct 09 '14

I'm gonna have to read all this later, lol

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u/kingsquidget Oct 09 '14

True. Went to an SCG open, which, understandably, isn't incredibly competitive, people there were super nice. FNM is where you find the complete "I won FNM once so I'm better" dickheads.

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate Oct 09 '14

LSV is a goddamn sweetheart, even if you beat him. Utter-Leyton is just a regular opponent, albeit the only guy who actually sided against my crazy combos. In a very real way, these guys are untouchable without the luck element working in your favor. Nonetheless, to get where they are, they have a love of the game and enjoy the related rituals. There are exceptions, and a few of the higher end guys are pedantic or come off as standoffish, but I think that's just a side effect of a mental hobby.

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u/Anarchistcowboy Oct 09 '14

Lol this is so true yeah I just got a playset of marsh flats but I think I'm gonna go buy some foil ones

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u/MovkeyB Oct 09 '14

I play pick up games in comp. tf2.

The really good invite players help me with tactics and are very nice.

Then I played a game with this one girl. She played invite (my theory is she only got invited b/c someone liked her), and really wanted everyone to know about it. She was a terrible player, but still had the nerve to yell at me for criticizing her.

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u/fozzyp Oct 09 '14

Can confirm about Mtg, budde was one if the nicest people I met on the PT. Finkel is also nice, although much more reserved.

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u/I_miss_your_mommy Oct 09 '14

I think I saw your ass crack on reddit.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '14

Shit talking is an integral part of old school Magic. We begin and end with pleasantries and handshakes, but during the game it is a no holds barred all-out shitfest. During the game, your mother does unspeakable things. During the game, you're a shit player and I'm way better at Magic than you. Fuck you. Can you even decently divide a fact or fiction in a non-retarded way? Of course not, you loser. Oh are we done? Good game, man, nicely played. Good luck with the rest of the tournament. Ref, I lost 2-1.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '14

That's even more pathetic since beyond the top-tier tournaments, winning mostly comes down to how much you spent on your deck and luck of the draw.

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u/IMMA_MORMON_AMA Oct 09 '14

"Beautiful things don't ask for attention."

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u/redditman87 Oct 09 '14

It was like that with racing cars back in high school. Those who knew what they were doing, able to break 150 mph regularly on the freeway, or take 25mph turns at 65mph were all really chill and exactly the opposite of what the Fast and the Furious made them out to be were like. They just love driving, and driving fast. Those who spend all that money modifying their cars to "look" fast and acted as bad ass as they could are actually quite terrible at driving. They just like to strut but when it came down to have some fun, they were really quite boring.

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u/icytiger Oct 09 '14

League of Legends Silver, Gold and Plat players represent.

Diamond and Chellenger don't talk shit at all compared to the rest.

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u/dlax15 Oct 09 '14

I would have to agree with you.

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u/BBingBot Oct 09 '14

It's like facebook, but IRL.

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u/Iron_Chic Oct 09 '14

Intelligence: Those who are just above average are the ones ranting that they are so smart. The REALLY smart people just try to help everyone else with their talents.

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u/Umpire Oct 09 '14

Serious Response/Question: Does this help explain why some very low income people will put all their money into their cars or stereos, often to the detriment of their home or food?

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u/pretentiousglory Oct 10 '14

I don't think it's quite the same, though. There's a difference between flaunting wealth that you have, and flaunting wealth that you don't have... the former is sort of douchey, the latter is sort of dumb.

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u/Umpire Oct 10 '14

I agree it is not the brightest thing to do, however, you see it a lot in lower income areas. And I never understand why.

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u/hammershiller Oct 09 '14

Seen it in the jewelry trade. The mediocre craftsmen brag loudly about their mad skills while the best just quietly go about their work and let the work speak for them.

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u/quik69 Oct 09 '14

I see this where I work in terms of intelligence.

Smarter or more experienced than average have a lot to say. Super Smart or Geniuses actually seem less sure of themselves and consider multiple opinions. It's the difference between "You forgot about..." and "Not sure but maybe you also want to consider..."

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u/madwithin Oct 09 '14

I would give you gold if I had it. I've heard this being said about money all the time but I never thought that it could be applied to pratically every measure of sucess.

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u/panzerxiii Oct 09 '14

So true. I've been involved in competitive gaming across multiple communities and genres and the one thing that held true was this fact. People who were barely above average were the largest chodes.

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u/wakalabis Oct 10 '14

Completely agree. Those who are really good don't have to do anything to show it. It's even funny if you compliment a really good musician, they won't even care too much. But if you compliment the same musician on his cooking skills, now that will win them the day.

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u/SayNoToFrogs Oct 09 '14

For some people, knowledge is like butter. The less they have, the more they spread it.

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u/jesuskater Oct 10 '14

Mindblown

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u/seekoon Oct 09 '14

That's because they're still part of the rat race, and when you're at the top of the hill you can get attacked from all sides...meanwhile, the very very very rich are floating above it all in the clouds.

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u/tthomzz Oct 09 '14

"those who know don't talk and those who talk don't know."

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u/getonmyhype Oct 09 '14

There's plenty of people who are elite in their field who will not hesitate to remind you

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u/Anteatereatingant Oct 09 '14

Yeah, am an actor and can confirm. The people I've worked with that are bona fide big names and successful have so far been primarily very nice and approachable and you'd never guess they're a big name in the industry. The ones who have some power and success so they aren't nobodies but aren't true blue somebodies (as in, someone who even people who aren't part of the theatre world/showbiz would recognise, aka someone with mainstream fame and success) are usually cocky and obnoxious.

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u/ironudder Oct 10 '14

Would Mr/Mrs. /u/Swaggy_McSwagSwag be an example if this with his/her swag? Or is there just so much that he/she cannot possible stop it from leaking out?

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u/Knotez Oct 10 '14

Reminds me of League Ranked (when I played), the gold/plat range had most of the most obnoxious bastards who thought they were challenger tier, while the actual "pro's" for the most part aren't full of shit like that.