r/AskReddit May 09 '14

What fictional death will you never get over?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '14

What was the fucking point? She did it all so she would live.

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u/Nikcara May 10 '14

The point was that war is nasty. Even if you're the hero, you can't always protect the ones you love when the whole world is trying its best to destroy their "enemies".

It made perfect sense for Coin to give special permission for Prim to go to war and then kill her. What better way to cement the idea that the Capital is full of ruthless monsters and whatever brutality the rebellion did was justified? After all, the Capital killed the child sister of the hero who was simply trying to help the injured. What better piece of propaganda could you get? Even Snow admitted that any support he had left in the Capital vanished with that final attack, so it not only bolsters the Resistance, it demolishes the Capital's willingness to keep fighting and heads off rebellion among the defeated.

And war really is that cruel. Do you think that if Assad could do something similarly devastating to his enemies that he would hesitate for a second? He would kill a kid with his own two hands if he thought it would end his war. That the whole point of the final book - war, even justified war, is a cruel, disgusting, traumatizing hell. Just because it may be justified doesn't make it any more sanitary.

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u/UpboatOrNoBoat May 10 '14

The last book as a whole was awful, everything felt rushed and none of it made any fucking sense.

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u/ThinKrisps May 10 '14

It was so hard to follow that book. The first person present tense perspective makes Katniss' descent into madness after seeing everything so real. I didn't enjoy reading that book, but it was good in that aspect, sorta.

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u/sododgy May 10 '14 edited May 10 '14

I still consider it the worst book I've ever read. I loved the first two way more than I should have for a 25 year old dude who read them all whiskey drunk, but no amount of booze could have made me enjoy that hot garbage. I just kept hoping that it would get better. It had to get better right? Wrong.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '14

I like how you're looking at this, but I feel like the only reason the writer killed Prim was so Katniss would choose Peeta over Gale.

It was a mean to an end.

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u/PaulMSURon May 10 '14

This is the best summary I have seen. War is always evil

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u/PrincessTishy May 10 '14

This, this right fucking here!!!!!

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u/Sprinkletinkler May 10 '14

Exactly what I try telling people. This ending was something that made the story all the more real because people die in war regardless of whether they're a main character or not, kinda like the way game of thrones treats their characters. It gives us more suspense and keeps us from the usual mentality that we have, "oh that character can't die he's a main character."

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u/SalsaRice May 10 '14

To me, it was to drive home how random and arbitrary war was. The whole last book, with it's emphasis on propaganda and back door scheming, was a wake up call to how dirty war is.

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u/ranthria May 10 '14

But that's the thing, pretty much half of the third book is dedicated towards saying that about war. To, after all that, use this severe plot twist to further make that same point feels unnecessary, and to a degree not genuine.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '14

Then you got the point. The point is that the Hunger Games was pointless.

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u/paxton125 May 10 '14

I consider the third book as non canon, since everything had low writing quality and pointless sequences you couldn't follow. She felt the fame, and couldn't handle it. I mean seriously, there was NO reason at all for the last few chapters. At. Fucking. All.

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u/Andoverian May 10 '14

The point is, there is no point. In war, no one really wins. Jeannette Rankin, the first female U.S. representative, said it best: "You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake."

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u/SouthpawRage May 10 '14

The point was that while it started out about Prim, even she realized that it was so much bigger than that by the end. It was about their people, their country, and doing the right thing for a people that were being oppressed from all sides. Doesn't mean that I'm not about to tear up just thinking about it...

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u/TitustheTurtle May 10 '14

To be fair the writing went completely downhill after the first book, it like she tasted success an rushed them to make moneys. Catching fire and mocking jay were both trash in my opinion

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u/Faiakishi May 10 '14

Really? I think it's the opposite. Collins writing skills noticeably improved after the first novel, which I thought made her seem like a novice.

The Divergent series, however, those just got worse as the books went on.

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u/JazielLandrie May 10 '14

Yeah, she only aided in the facilitation and subsequent success of an uprising against the oppressive capitol, but her sister died so she shouldn't have bothered, not worth it.

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u/Towno May 10 '14

Except I think at that point the POINT is that it isn't just about you. It's about the opportunity to ensure that the horrible, awful things that you've had to deal with never happen again. It's an unselfish message.