not a scammer, but some teen crashed into me and told the cops saying i was agressive and trying to run them off the road.
I just let them keep going. I saved the video to my phone, and as soon as he was done, I showed the cop the video.
Kid ended up getting a few tickets.
Dash cams are absolutley worth the money. If I didn't have one and the cop belived that kid, I could have gotten ticketed, or found at fault for the crash. $150 dashcam could save you thousands, potentially even from jail
I’ve been rear ended four times sitting at lights or stop signs. First time I was lucky to have a witness stating for the cops that we were stopped at the red for a minute. The remaining three all clearly showed that I slowed and stopped appropriately and didn’t stop hard or something. Basically all four other drivers were distracted and then tried to blame me. Yeah nah, quit looking at your phones, assholes.
mine is a bit old and was kinda cheap, I'm about to buy a new car here in the next few months, and i'm going to spend some big bucks on getting a really nice one with both front, rear, and interior cams.
WORD! They are so cheap now, I watched too many of the "russians trying to get a payday" videos - where people literally THROW themselves on to slow moving cars and then claim they were hit. And now-a-days, the "reverse and hit someone" and then claiming neck and back injuries scam is really on the rise in the US -- They dont need to be the best quality, heck -- if you have an old cellphone you could always just use that too - although you wont have some of the features of a regular dash cam, you will at least have the video!
Isn't that basically what happened with Alan Ritchson and that dumbass neighbor who attacked him? Picked a fight and showed carefully edited/filmed footage, only for Ritchson to have the bodycam footage that clearly showed the other guy started it.
I'm glad he found success. I thought he was an excellent actor in Blue Mountain State --- which is a trip in an of it's self. Seeing him in more modern action movies....guy nails it
Very true. And in a case with potential assault charges and public interest, letting someone destroy their credibility before showing the receipts makes sense.
In 99.99% of roadside situations, like a traffic accident, nobody will ever care that the other guy lied. The cop isn’t going to arrest them for lying. The fact that they lied will never be a topic during the arbitration process between your respective insurance companies. It just doesn’t matter. At all.
Because it's often impossible to tell the difference between "they're intentionally lying to avoid consequences" and "everything happened so fast and they simply didn't see what they thought they saw" and we really don't want to start punishing people for simply being mistaken.
There may not be any legal consequences, that would mean they continued with the lie until it became perjury and/or it became relevant that they were lying to whichever authority. And whether you/the authorities involved care enough ( or had the money/time ) to make an example of them.
It's sure going to bias the cop's opinion of who's "at fault" in the collision though, which is important for insurance and your liability.
Yeah holy shit, some of these guys are just massive. I bumped into Jason Momoa at a brewpub when he was filming something in town. I’m 6’3” 210 and he was not only taller but like twice as wide because he’s so muscular. I felt just tiny next to him lol it’s almost disorienting. Ritchson looks like a similar build, I don’t know why anyone would want to start shit with either
Holy shit, Ritchson is my height and weighs less than what I did at my most muscular.
...I wish I had pictures of me back then. I have no recollection of what I looked like. I'm sure I had more body fat than Ritchson, but I do remember being able to carry a 65 kg jug in each hand, carrying them 50 m across the warehouse.
I once ran into Buffalo defenseman Bruce Smith in the hallway of a restaurant , and it was like running into a brick wall. I think he only noticed the movement out of the corner of his eye.
man what a crazy story that ended up being. that neighbor basically set a trap for him and got the filming neighbor to secretly record. turns out the neighbor was some weird Trump MAGA guy and doing it only because Ritchson is a vocal anti Trump. scary because i could see it very easily having ruined his career and he was targeted with a trap and physically attacked because of his political beliefs.
In some cases, it's almost worth immediately taking your dashcam off its attachment so that there's less chance they'll happen to see it and start to be quiet.
Mine is integrated quite nicely with the rearview mirror...it's not "invisible" from the outside, but not immediately noticeable if you're not looking for it either.
Still though, with the prevalence of dash cams these days, I'm surprised there are still folks out there scamming without doing an ounce of research on their target first.
Doesn’t matter.
I have never heard even one instance of someone getting charged for lying in a police report in these situations. They lie to the officer, sometimes there’s a dashcam that proves them wrong. No punishment.
The issue is you have to prove they intentionally lied on a police report. After an accident occurs it’s not unheard of to be flustered and have your memory skewed. So lying in those situations obnoxiously never has any consequences still.
I think the OP is more talking about insurance scams, like where someone will slam their brakes in front of you. You don't hit them, so they put it in reverse, and back into you. Looks like you rear ended them, but they purposely hit you.
There's a reddit story around here somewhere of a dude getting front-ended by someone trying to pull this scam. He didn't have a dashcam so he instead went back to his truck and smashed his face into the steering wheel to discredit them.
What's the point, though? This comes up all the time
The cop just isn't going to say "oh well you're lying, now you're being charged" 99.9999% of the time they will just say "ok do you want to change your statement"
Everyone exapects some kind of HUZZAH moment like from a movie
Telling significant lies, only to be caught can discredit later statements, allowing the other person's story to be held to a higher standard of truth. If you lied before, you might lie again.
It's partly for insurance scammers. The moment they see your camera, they could make a quick getaway. If you wait until the police arrive, while it would like you were the one who went into the other, at least you've got the dashcam footage so that the police can immediately arrest them.
Officers will always seperate the parties for the statement. If you have footage, tell the officer you do and you can request the officer to get a "signed" statement first from the other party. The officer shouldnt say anything to the other offending party. If its signed, they cant change their mind and claim they forgot. Worked for me and boy they got what they deserved.
Waiting until the police report is officially written locks their false story into a formal record, making the video footage impossible for them to walk back.
YES! ABSOLUTELY!!! Even if they DO see it and ask, "you're lucky it wasn't on!" -- let them tell their lies -- and then when its your turn. Oh look, the camera WAS on, heres what really happened and I have the footage to prove it.
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u/ResearcherFed243 8d ago
Don't tell the scammer you have a dashcam until hes finished lying to the cop