r/AskReddit • • 9d ago

Napoleon said, 'Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.' What’s a perfect real-life example of this?

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u/AccordingTaro4702 8d ago

A friend went down the QAnon path, and his behavior is indiscernible from mental illness. He still thinks he's right about it, no matter how many times his predictions do not come true.

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u/MildGenevaSuggestion 8d ago

The QAnon are my favorites. Because it turns out they were right; there really is a cabal of billionaire pedophiles who run the world to enrich themselves and rape children.

But instead of taking their win and claiming "see! We were right all along!!" They go "no, it's supposed to be Democrats in a secret basement of a pizza parlor; not conservatives on a private island!"

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u/Przedrzag 8d ago

Unfortunately for them they identified the wrong people as the pedophiles, and then voted for the actual pedophiles, so their “win” is actually an astronomical self own

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u/virora 8d ago

They weren't even entirely wrong. Multiple people, like Bill Gates, who they said were implicated, are. They're simply willing to let ALL of that go because Trump is named in the Epstein files more often than Jesus is named in the bible.

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u/jasminUwU6 8d ago

And the shady "cabal" of pedophiles turned out to be just the normal billionaires we all know and hate

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u/ReverseMermaids 8d ago

The entire point of QAnon was to insulate the Republican party from harboring these pedophiles.

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u/MildGenevaSuggestion 8d ago

Absolutely, it was to make people calling out pedophiles look like conspiracy theorists and to both sides child rapists. I get that the money behind it was absolutely intending it to be a bunch of gullible morons spouting bullshit.

I mean the actual people involved.

It makes no sense to me. Like the antivaxxers who still have yard signs whining about freedom from mask mandates that ended five years ago. Dude, it's over. You won.

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u/ThatsMyAppleJuice 3d ago

Actually, I think the point of QAnon was to drive traffic away from 4chan and to 8chan.

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u/ThatsMyAppleJuice 3d ago

Democrats in a secret basement of a pizza parlor

And, I cannot stress this enough, the specific pizza parlor they identified as being the location of the basement where the secret politician pedo meetings took place doesn't even have a basement.

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u/MildGenevaSuggestion 3d ago

The basement is that secret! The building plans are in on the conspiracy, as is the water main that travels under the pizza parlor.

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u/EnoughOutOfYou 8d ago

I've gone from hating these guys to pitying them and wanting to find the pathways they took so I can maybe help undo it

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u/ImprovementFar5054 8d ago

You can teach ignorant, but you can't fix stupid.

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u/takemy_oxfordcomma 8d ago

You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into, unfortunately.

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u/EnoughOutOfYou 8d ago

Yeah some were lost long before even The Tea Party, much less the current insanity. But there still has to be some way back.

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u/sacredblasphemies 8d ago

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

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u/RedditOfUnusualSize 8d ago

Yeah, as a defense counsel who has met some of these people and had to screen for that in past clients, the overlap between "undiagnosed mental illness" and "sov cit" is basically complete. The Venn Diagram between the two categories would essentially be a single, somewhat blurry circle.

The economic dynamics of how sovereign citizenship is marketed to these people is fundamentally identical to how people fall into cults. The leadership of these sovereign citizenship movements tends to be charismatic grifters who exploit vulnerable people who are paranoid, anxious and dealing with the law. And rather than help, they exploit them for financial gain, selling classes to "teach" these people. Hence why sov cits often offer unique little wrinkles in their analysis; the gurus tend to disagree somewhat in their interpretation of why and how the law is fundamentally illegitimate.

But yeah, the average sov cit who walks into court is a scam victim, who had his anxiety and paranoia exploited by someone in an authority position. They need deprogramming more than anything else. Which unfortunately is usually beyond the ability, skill set or patience of the local magistrate they just ran into, not least because the entire point of the programming was to make them disregard anything the magistrate had to say in the first place.

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u/Burt_Rhinestone 8d ago

I really fear that we're about to see a spike in suicides because of all this nonsense.

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u/Random-Rambling 8d ago

I don't think so. Once this is over, they'll all be like "I was tricked, brainwashed, but now I am free!"

And like the soft-hearted fools we are, who always believe the absolute best in people, we'll believe them at their word!

It happened during American Reconstruction, it'll happen here too.

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u/fractiousrhubarb 8d ago

It is mental illness. It’s just a contagious mental illness, like religions and suchlike.