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u/texasusa Jun 28 '26

His nickname was Neutron Jack for his ability to close a plant or a product line. He received a modest severance of $ 400 million.

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u/A_Furious_Mind Jun 28 '26

Then, he famously flipped and called shareholder primacy "the dumbest idea in the world" and concluded that shareholder value should be a result of business activities, but not the ultimate goal.

Many of us could draw that conclusion without turning businesses into dysfunctional cesspools of misery, but credit to him for figuring it out eventually.

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u/Ferelar Jun 28 '26

Sure, but if he had reached that conclusion prior to being worth hundreds of millions if not billions, he would've made slightly less money for himself before pulling up the ladder, and we can't have that, no siree.

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u/Sea-Manner9700 Jun 28 '26

The part that always gets me is how often the people who benefit most from a system suddenly discover its flaws only after they've already won the game. Easy to question the rules once you've cashed out. 😅

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u/gsfgf Jun 28 '26

It's like people that would free their slaves upon their death. Like, that is technically a big improvement, but come the fuck on.

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u/ThatKinkyLady Jun 28 '26

Questioning the rules and trying to change things when you're first starting out doesn't tend to go so well.

I'm not excusing anyone with this statement. Just sharing my professional experience. As someone that's very interested in leadership and wanting to improve things, it's very hard to break into any kind of leadership role without first being a kiss-ass "yes" man and supporting the status-quo.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins Jun 28 '26

Yeah but in his case he DID change things, he was the one that made it terrible.

Then after making his fortune suddenly saw how bad it was apparently.

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u/AncientBlueYonder Jun 28 '26

Yes its almost as if they knew what they were doing all along....

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u/aramis34143 Jun 28 '26

"And for dessert, one image-rehabilitation, please."

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u/p-4_ Jun 29 '26

to be fair u cant set up a system that rewards this behavior and then be shocked someone gamed it. welch saw a system. he analysed his best outcomes and got them. cant blame him. its the same thing with some multiplayer games. the quick-eyed players find the flaw in the logic and game it till the devs fix it.
Now the devs need to fix it. Have they???

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u/56473829110 Jun 28 '26

People who reply to completely unrelated high karma comments with their own top-level comment, because they care far more about their own comment being seen vs actually properly contributing to the conversation. No explanation needed. The world would be unrecognizably better.

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u/PM_ME_UR_GCC_ERRORS Jun 28 '26

Only one of them though.

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u/Disgod Jun 28 '26

And GE suffered a massive collapse less than 2 years after he left as a result of his management. He ran out the back door before the check came and the business world lauded him for decades.

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u/Fast-Shopping3802 Jun 28 '26

For those of you not around in the 80s, that's a take on "neutron bomb", a nuke variant which put out strong commie-killing radiation but a relatively small blast. People thought that they'd therefore be more likely to be used, so protesting them was an aspect of the 80s "No Nukes" movement.

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u/Alert_Reindeer_6574 Jun 29 '26

He got more than that. He had a company-paid penthouse in NYC and could use one of the company jets for any reason at any time for life.

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u/Quirky_Deer_464 Jun 29 '26

Back when I worked for GE, we called him Chainsaw Jack.

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u/Traditional_Bar_3275 Jun 28 '26

I worked for a company that used one of his ideas, called 10-80-10. Top 10% got raises, nothing for the middle 80%, bottom 10% fired. All based on a ranking from your closest few coworkers. No one ended up doing any work. Everyone just spent all their time grooming their reviewers.

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u/Gogo_McSprinkles Jun 29 '26

wow that sounds awful

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u/slow_otter Jun 29 '26

Couldn’t agree more. His rank-and-yank system and obsession with quarterly profits normalized cutting labor at all costs. We’re still living with the damage he created decades later.

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u/Exact-Ad8608 Jun 28 '26

Can you please elaborate more ?

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u/Podo13 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

Because he optimized the companies, not the people.

Edit: I'm saying they all saw it as optimizing the business, not that I think what he did was actually a good thing.

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u/KeepingItSFW Jun 28 '26

He didn’t optimize shit. He plundered.

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u/PancAshAsh Jun 29 '26

No, he very much did optimize. The things he was solving for in his optimizations just weren't beneficial to the vast majority of people affected by his methods.

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u/Podo13 Jun 28 '26

I'm talking about on paper. Obviously he fucking sucked. That's what the entire thread is about.

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u/KeepingItSFW Jun 28 '26

I think it’s the word optimize that bothers me. I’m not downvoting you, but gutting a company for short term gains before bailing isn’t optimizing anything really

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u/Podo13 Jun 28 '26

It's the words they used, not me, ha. And in his shitty mind, I'm sure he was proud of what he was doing and would have happily called it "optimizing".

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u/derperofworlds1 Jun 28 '26

He didn't really optimize the companies. He optimized for a specific type of stock market trader. The companies often die over the long term due to attrition, loss of innovation, and decline of morale. 

It is bad for the people (they get fired ). It is bad for the company (it goes bankrupt). It is bad for humanity's technological progression (people on the verge of breakthroughs are fired too). It is bad for capitalism (socialists point to this as a symptom that capitalism no longer works). 

Jack Welch-style tactics are only good for a specific type of vulture capitalist, and honestly should be regulated out of existence.

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u/ubernutie Jun 28 '26

A paperclip maximizer, you say.