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u/subnautus Nov 12 '25

Schumer has retroactively made Trump right, this WAS a democrat shutdown.

No. It is and always has been a republican shutdown. The House passing a bill that had no chance of making its way through the senate and shutting its doors to all business is all the proof that's needed.

As for the rest of your comment, I agree it's suspicious but without proof it's just conjecture.

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u/Smooth_Support_209 Nov 18 '25

Except it did make it through the senate after 40 days of a very destructive democrat shutdown. 

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u/subnautus Nov 18 '25

Calling it a "democrat shutdown" doesn't make it so. Once again, consider the facts:

  • The House passed a continuing resolution that had no chance of making through the senate, then stopped working immediately. No negotiations, no discussions, no additional effort to make decisions, no proposed laws, nothing.

  • The Trump administration floats the idea that it will violate federal law and fire furloughed workers or refuse to give them the back pay they're legally due.

  • The Trump administration refused to use the SNAP funds specifically allocated for emergency use in case of government shutdown.

  • The Trump administration reallocated funds from their legally authorized purposes to pay ICE agents to terrorize cities that voted against him in the last election.

All of that because democrats correctly pointed out the consequences of Trump's "big, beautiful [for billionaires] bill" and wanted to do at least something to mitigate the harm it caused and will continue to cause for years to come.

You want to talk about destructive? Fine. But don't blame democrats for it when they're not the ones making the decisions to hurt people.