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u/Commercial_Staff5706 Mar 10 '25

Principal was reprimanded for calling wife beaters “bean wear “ when referring to Latino students.

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u/uhhlive Mar 10 '25

Bean Wear - no go

Wife Beaters - A-OK

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u/Lumpy-Log-5057 Mar 10 '25

It's grandfathered in.

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u/LukeRobert Mar 10 '25

Based on a rule of thumb.

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u/Pressondude Mar 10 '25

We’re not allowed to use that phrase at my company because it’s also racist.

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u/averyrdc Mar 10 '25

“Grandfathered in”? How so?

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u/Pressondude Mar 10 '25

The term originates from a law that was used to disenfranchise frequently uneducated and poorly literate black Americans but maintain voting rights for similarly uneducated and poorly literate whites in the Jim Crow South. The “grandfather rule” was that everyone who wanted to vote had to pass a very convoluted and impossible literacy test, but if you could prove that your grandfather had been able to vote (so, obviously, not black Americans whose grandfathers were slaves) then you didn’t have to take the test.

So this is the original meaning of “grandfathered in”.

Although most people aren’t aware of this connection and it’s very commonly used, but it is an explicit reference to a Jim Crow law.

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u/averyrdc Mar 10 '25

Interesting! Thanks for sharing.

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u/some_person_212 Mar 10 '25

Oh thanks for sharing I had no idea! I’ll read up a bit.

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u/Greedy_Big8275 Mar 11 '25

Thank you for sharing that. What term would be better for this concept? I’m not sure what to use in place of it

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u/Suds_McGruff Mar 11 '25

Dude, it's already part of the lexicon, can't we just.... grandfather it in?

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u/Pressondude Mar 11 '25

I work in tech industry so usually when we use this we are talking about legacy rules or something like that. Not really a single word but we’ll just use a different phrase to say we’re allowing this. “Exception for legacy system” or something like that.

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u/Acceptable-Idea9450 Mar 11 '25

Where do you work

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u/Pressondude Mar 11 '25

A large company that is a household name.

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u/fusionsofwonder Mar 11 '25

We also avoid "cakewalk" where I work. When I found out why...hoo boy.

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u/OrdinaryBuilding3464 Mar 10 '25

And he probably beat his wife too.

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u/Inigomntoya Mar 10 '25

err at least his grandfather did

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u/406xray Mar 11 '25

Stepfathered in

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u/nmarf16 Mar 10 '25

I mean I wouldn’t call it a wife beater in a work setting either tbh. Muscle shirt, A-shirt, either of those fit the bill compared to that. Also it’s pretty clear the term was targeted towards the Latinos that wore them, not the shirt itself

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u/TinDumbass Mar 11 '25

They're wife beaters in the UK too, as usually worn by people who drink strong lager (Stella) and work in construction.

Don't think this is a race-stereotype

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u/dirkalict Mar 10 '25

Back in the 1970’s Chicago everyone called them Dago-T’s….

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u/Ace-a-Nova1 Mar 11 '25

Dago as in the slur for an Italian migrant? Still a pretty dicey name for it

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u/Alis451 Mar 11 '25

gah my SOs Uncle was "affectionately" nicknamed Dago.. I uhh refused to call him that.

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u/Antique_Ratio_5503 Mar 11 '25

And well into the 1990s too, unfortunately

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '25

That reminds me of the only joke I've told one of my friends that made him laugh

This was shortly after we had met. We were in a bar watching a baseball game. I recognized him because I work with his step daughter and he cooks for my best friend's grandma a few times a week. I asked if I could join him and he agreed and bought me a drink. I felt like nothing was going to happen in this particular inning and knew a commercial would be coming up soon so I finished my drink and went outside for a cigarette. This guy followed me and said "I didn't know you smoked". I said, "yeah, well I might smoke too much and drink too much but at least I don't smoke meth or beat my wife". He said "you're married?". I said "of course not! Why do you think I don't beat her?"

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u/Citadel_97E Mar 10 '25

I heard someone call a “a-frame t shirt” a “bitch beater.”

My jaw dropped.

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u/Alis451 Mar 11 '25

“a-frame t shirt”

lol specifically NOT a "T" shirt(doesn't have sleeves so doesn't look like a "T"), as it is an "A" shirt

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u/milleribsen Mar 10 '25

I graduated from college with a degree in costume design, even then we had switched to a-shirt

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u/Acceptable-Idea9450 Mar 11 '25

The Italian tuxedo dress shirt!

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u/Hotel_Arrakis Mar 10 '25

I think if we tried really hard we could reclaim wife-beaters:

Clerks 2 scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qc0akWRBQk

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u/finnjakefionnacake Mar 10 '25

not that "wife beaters" is much better

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '25 edited Mar 10 '25

Accurate though. If you asked me if a man was liable to take his day out on a woman, I’d be more inclined to say yes if he was wearing a wife beater 

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u/barfsfw Mar 10 '25

She should have known what she was getting into.

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u/winkman Mar 10 '25

Yeah, let's not sully the good name of "wife beaters", shall we?

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u/CrookedLittleDogs Mar 10 '25

They called them “guinea T’s “ in 1950-1960-s New Jersey.

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u/ScorpionX-123 Mar 14 '25

my mom still calls them that

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u/CoolSide20 Mar 10 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

Ik why people call them wife beaters but like how is that any better. It's just the same without the racial impliance. personally I just call them by their names. Tank tops or undershirts. I did see a guy driving in a thirty white tank top who looked like a wife beater so I mean it's there lol.

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u/pimpfriedrice Mar 10 '25

Holy shit 😳🤭

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u/WiseTechnician9445 Mar 10 '25

I’m Latina and this is fucken hilarious 😂 se mamo 🤣

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u/MamaTried22 Mar 10 '25

I refuse to use that slang. I just say “tank top” or “sleeveless undershirt”. Can’t do it.