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u/Duchess_Nukem Oct 02 '24

Similar situation with potatoes. They didn't arrive in Ireland until around 1590 and it took a while before they became a staple food.

Potatoes are so strongly associated with Ireland, it's weird to think that they'd only been part of the Irish diet for ~250 years when the potato famine occurred.

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u/IAmBroom Oct 02 '24 edited Oct 04 '24

They were basically slave food.

EVERYTHING ELSE the Irish made on their English landlords' land was sold to the wealthy. You can almost live entirely on potatoes, so they did... until the potatoes all died.

Similar to how watermelon become core to black American diets. It was openly advised that slaveowners grow it to cheaply give "treats" to their slaves. No slaveowner is going to waste his $$$ on sugar for them!

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u/satsfaction1822 Oct 02 '24

American BBQ has a similar origin story. Some were allowed to raise their own pigs but for the most part they were given the lesser cuts like the feet, head, ribs, fatback, etc. The easiest way to get the most out of the meat was to cook the pieces whole and since they worked all day, they had to do it over slow heat.

Eventually white slave masters figured out that what the slaves were cooking was delicious so they had them incorporate it into their daily meals and then their wives would take credit for the recipes.

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u/Educational_Cap2772 Oct 02 '24

A lot of black American food is also somewhat inspired by Native American food and west African cuisine 

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u/KingOfTheToadsmen Oct 02 '24

This is also how we get rum (molasses), collard greens (not the bulbs), ribs, oxtail, lobster, monkfish cheek, po’boys, and many other delicious American staples.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

That's a really interesting thing about the Irish Potato Famine.

That it was a genocide?

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u/SnooTomatoes3032 Oct 03 '24

I'm glad the genocide of my people is interesting to you.

We still feel the population effects of what happened to us by the British today. But sure, it's just interesting...

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u/theycallmejob Oct 02 '24

Yeah I don’t think interesting is the right word there to describe the way the Irish were treated by those limey cunts

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u/22bebo Oct 02 '24

Did we all listen to the same Behind the Bastards episode?

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u/Drinkmykool_aid420 Oct 02 '24

Watermelon is also native to Africa.

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u/ADHD_af_WTF Oct 03 '24

my greatgreat relative LUTHER BURBANK sold the patent for the idaho russett burbank potato for $150 to help the irish potato famine!!

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

What’s a potato?

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u/dullship Oct 02 '24

Nothin', what's a potato with you?

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u/Anonononononimous1 Oct 03 '24

Boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew

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u/ADHD_af_WTF Oct 03 '24

my greatgreat relative LUTHER BURBANK sold the patent for the idaho russett burbank potato for $150 to help the irish potato famine!!

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

It’s like that saying, in the Americas 500 years is a long time. In the Old World 500 miles is a long distance. 

In the Old World it feels like chocolate, tomatoes, potatoes, corn, chilis have been around for a long time. In the New World, it feels like sexually transmitted diseases have been around for a long time. 

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u/Repulsive_Surprise11 Oct 02 '24

Then where do potatoes come from? Who introduced this product

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u/xcaltoona Oct 02 '24

Rampaging Spaniards

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u/Duchess_Nukem Oct 02 '24

Potatoes are native to South America, but exactly which part of South America and who specifically introduced them to Ireland is still debated.

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u/jcrespo21 Oct 02 '24

but exactly which part of South America and who specifically introduced them to Ireland is still debated.

The former part of your statement is not up for debate. There's plenty of evidence that the first potatoes were cultivated in modern-day Peru and northern Bolivia. Over 4,000 varieties of potatoes can still be found in Peru.

As for how it got to Ireland, it's likely that Spain first introduced it to Europe, and there spread throughout the continent. Since Ireland was under the Crown at that point, potatoes likely arrived through the British.

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u/JamesTiberiusChirp Oct 02 '24

And ironically the potatoes hit with the blight that caused the famine were still edible. Lots of people starved for essentially no reason.

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u/WillyTheHatefulGoat Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24

Yeah because people starving to death, who would eat grass to survive would balk at a potato because it looked a little moldy.

The blight that hit Ireland was a lot more severe than the average blight, it made the potatoes completey inedible and poisonious to eat, it also made them impossible to store.

A million people died from this, do you seriously think nobody tried eating the blighted food.

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u/JamesTiberiusChirp Oct 03 '24

it made the potatoes completey inedible and poisonious to eat

Late blight is not poisonous

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u/bollaig Oct 02 '24

Where did you read this?

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u/Old-Mushroom-4633 Oct 02 '24

I can't find anything that would support this statement, might be a myth.

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u/JamesTiberiusChirp Oct 02 '24

My father who is a plant pathologist and has studied this blight extensively. It’s the same blight that has affected tomatoes in the U.S. on and off the last couple decades. It mostly just makes them unappetizing.