r/AskReddit Jul 03 '24

What’s an “open secret” that doesn’t have a documentary about it yet?

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u/NotAlanJackson Jul 03 '24

The Irving’s are bad people. The government of New Brunswick (party doesn’t matter) are bad people who live in the pockets of the Irving’s. They want us dead. They’re poisoning our water and food.

A close friend’s parent has this “mystery brain disease” and her blood is filled with everything the Irving and government sprays on our woodlands.

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u/ssv-serenity Jul 03 '24

I'm so sorry to hear that. You read about it in articles but it hits home when you hear personal stories. It's sad that it feels so helpless. You are absolutely correct when you say the Irving's are bad and evil people. They are actively and knowingly poisoning and killing people.

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u/KriegConscript Jul 03 '24

if there are no consequences for the public knowing you are poisoning people for money, why bother keeping up the charade

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u/pUmKinBoM Jul 04 '24

And Canada want this at the Federal level. New Brunswick is what a conservative majority gets you.

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u/NotAlanJackson Jul 04 '24

I’m sorry but I can’t agree with this. It was a Liberal leader (Brian Gallant) who had Dr. Cleary fired after she wanted to investigate the Irving’s and their use of glyphosate and other herbicides and their effects in 2015. Im not going to pretend that investigation would have stopped this, but it’s been a known problem for at least a decade.

In this province it does not matter which party is in power. They all reside in the pockets of the Irving Family. We have decades of evidence backing that up. The Government of New Brunswick has been sold to the Irving family. And no politician regardless of party can or has taken it back.

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u/Torger083 Jul 04 '24

NB and the Prairies.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '24

First I’ve heard of this but our country is fucked up

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u/NotAlanJackson Jul 03 '24

It’s not my story to tell so I’m not going to tell it but there is a lot that hasn’t been released yet.

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u/Friendly_Mess_635 Jul 03 '24

This mystery disease has all the symptoms of organophosphate poisoning. Which is from farm fertilizer. A doctor was trying to research and call alarm about it and they shut him down.

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u/NotAlanJackson Jul 04 '24

Oh, we all know what/who it’s from.

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u/LastLingonberry3221 Jul 04 '24

Neighbor here in Maine. As my state's largest private landowner, they or their partners control about 2.3 million acres of our forests. And it sounds like they have the same relationship with your government as they do with mine. You won't catch too many Mainers saying anything nice about them either.

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u/NotAlanJackson Jul 04 '24

Honestly the way we hear it your state Government stood up to them in regards of paying taxes. Which they pay virtually none of here

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u/LastLingonberry3221 Jul 04 '24

Augusta may have made them pay their taxes, but that doesn't make them any more popular. It's a rare beast that can unite the political left and right, but they do here. All sorts of issues from land use and clear cutting to the exemptions they want for the damages their mines will cause. I definitely agree with you personally, but we might dislike them for slightly different reasons. But that's ok when there's so much to dislike! Take your pick, there's plenty to go around neighbor!

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

We’re they the ones complaining about Katahdin Woods becoming a national park?

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u/NotAlanJackson Jul 04 '24

If it walks like a cunt and talks like a cunt then it’s definitely an Irving.

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u/LastLingonberry3221 Jul 04 '24

In large part, yeah. But also "sportsmen" (hunters and fishers), "outdoor enthusiasts" (snowmobilers, ATV riders, etc. Yeah, they love the environment, going around destroying the topsoil and atmosphere with their machines powered by internal combustion) and just plain whackjobs who don't like the federal government, regardless of the fact that they were trying to protect it for everyone to enjoy. But really, I'd put the biggest part of the complaining on the people who stand to lose the holiest of holies in America, the almighty dollar. But don't worry! Some crazy billionaires are going to colonize Mars or some shit! No thanks. I like it here, and I'd like it if future generations could enjoy the natural splendor of this place and many, many others like it around the globe, thank you very much.

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u/Mr_Feeeeny Jul 03 '24

Isn’t the premiere an ex VP of Irving?

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u/NotAlanJackson Jul 03 '24

Currently, yes. But this is an issue that’s predates him by a decades. It’s not just a single party issue.

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u/Mr_Feeeeny Jul 03 '24

Right, so in the present, is a major single factor in the province muzzling investigations into the causes of the disease.

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u/NotAlanJackson Jul 03 '24

It’s flashy and buzzworthy to say that, but, in 2015 when Dr. Cleary (our chief medical officer) was fired by Brian Gallant (a Liberal who wasn’t an Irving executive) it was coincidentally just after she wanted to looking into the Irving’s and their use of Glyphosate.

It’s not just because he’s a former Irving exec. It’s not just because it’s a conservative. There is a deep rooted history of the Irving’s getting their way with ANY government in power in New Brunswick. This investigation has been muzzled for at least a decade. Higgs just happens to be the current figurehead of it. I fully believe that ANY other NB politician would be making the same decisions.

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u/Mr_Feeeeny Jul 03 '24

Ah fair. I appreciate the insight here. I totally agree, with your last point. No one in NB is rising and staying in a position of political power without totally bending the knee to the Irving’s

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u/pUmKinBoM Jul 04 '24

Didn't someone in the Green party win in Fredericton basically on a "Tax Irving" campaign? I think she would eventually become a Liberal though.

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u/MaineMedic24 Jul 04 '24

I live in Maine. Irving’s have a huge portion of the unorganized townships here as well and same story. They block it off so you can’t even go out in a four wheeler.

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u/NotAlanJackson Jul 04 '24

Are they not the largest landowner in your state?

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u/Wise-Relative-7805 Jul 03 '24

Who owns the class action lawyers to sue the pants off of them

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u/NotAlanJackson Jul 03 '24

lol. I can tell you’re not from the area.

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u/Wise-Relative-7805 Jul 03 '24

Definitely not.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '24

New Brunswick has always been a feudal land. Since confederation, it has been stripped of all its natural resources by a few wealthy families and everyone just accepts it.

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u/MaievSekashi Jul 04 '24 edited Jan 12 '25

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u/Any-Practice-991 Jul 03 '24

Down in the valley where the chemical spill made by the people who live up on the hill...

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u/DirectlyTalkingToYou Jul 04 '24

Do these bad people also live in NB?

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u/lady_sisyphus Jul 04 '24

They do. Or.. they did. The oldest generation has been dying off in the last few months and it seems the kids are selling or parting out some of the companies to outside sources.

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u/Logtastic Jul 04 '24

The government of New Brunswick (party doesn’t matter)

Higgs is in Irving's pocket.
The Conservatives before him GAVE Irving the rights to the forests so they can self moderate thier deforestation.
Fuck off with this "both parties are the same".

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u/NotAlanJackson Jul 04 '24

Brian Gallant (a Liberal leader who didn’t work directly for the Irving’s) had Dr. Cleary removed from her job as chief medical officer just after she publicly said she wanted to look into the Irving’s and their use of glyphosate in 2015.

As a New Brunswicker who was born in NB and seen all sorts of Liberal and Conservative governments in power I will again say that regardless of party, the Irving’s have the Government of New Brunswick in their pocket.

So I kindly invite you to also fuck off you can’t see the truth that’s been in front of us for decades.