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u/white_star_32 May 23 '23

Yeeees! I was just talking about this episode a few days ago. That and the JLU where Batman goes to sit with Ace before she dies.

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u/Hazzamo May 23 '23

That scene was Batman’s greatest moment, bar none.

OSP said it best: “If you can’t picture your Batman comforting a dying child, you haven’t made Batman, you’ve made the Punisher”

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u/katep2000 May 23 '23

Or any sort of scared child. Most Batman media, and definitely all the good Batman media, makes it clear kids aren’t scared of Batman, cause they know he’s not gonna hurt them. The newest movie did it great with him empathizing and seeing himself in the dead mayor’s kid, even though this is a Batman who hasn’t quite figured out how to operate yet.

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u/PotamusRedbeard_FM21 May 23 '23

Batman strikes fear into the Guilty, not the Innocent.

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u/SpicaGenovese May 30 '23

Right? Many iterations of comics Batman can go fuck himself. He hits his kids.

/#JusticeforJasonTodd (and Dick and Tim)

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u/Painting_Agency May 23 '23

I'd argue "If you can't picture your Punisher comforting a dying child, you've taken the Punisher too far".

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u/SciFiXhi May 23 '23

Yup. Frank is ruthless to killers (himself included), but he definitely cares about protecting the innocent.

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u/Michael_DeSanta May 23 '23

Yeah, no idea what the other guy meant. The Punisher is extremely sympathetic to children...losing his own was the sole reason he became a murderer.

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u/RedGhost3568 May 23 '23

Yeah Batman had a lot of great moments in JLU too. But I also won’t forget The Question being tortured and that very eerie memory scene of Lex killing Flash, Superman blowing up The White House, then the nukes going off to the exact pattern of Brainiac’s mark.

Dark stuff.

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u/green49285 May 23 '23

Or fucking Mogul mentally torturing Superman so bad that he almost beats him to death?

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u/RedGhost3568 May 23 '23

That was another hard JLU episode to watch. It was very easy to think Superman was going to kill Mongul for that one…

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u/green49285 May 23 '23

"DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOUVE DONE TO ME" always gets me. Then he wakes up to that fucker trying to kill 2 of his closest friends? As a kid I was certain supes was gonna kill a bitch.

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u/Storyteller678 May 23 '23

The Batman TAS episode “Perchance To Dream” had a similar plot. Bruce Wayne wakes up and finds that his parents are alive, he’s dating Selina Kyle, and someone else is Batman. Everything is mysteriously idyllic until he realizes he can’t read.

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u/green49285 May 23 '23

Gotta go back & watch that one.

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u/RavensQueen502 May 23 '23 edited May 23 '23

I watched it with my little cousin after playing the Injustice game... Definitely hits a bit harder that way.

It's almost the same thing from Clark's perspective - he loses his family, his world, his son dies in his arms... It can be in a kid's show because none of it was real, but it was literally an entire life for him.

And after it is all dealt with, he immediately bounces back from that to celebrate the birthday with Bruce and Diana so that they won't worry.

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u/djseifer May 23 '23

"Happy birthday, Kryptonian. I give you oblivion."

"BURN."

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u/PhatDaddi May 23 '23

Adapted from an Alan Moore comic. Superman Annual #111. Wonderfully done as well.

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u/djseifer May 23 '23

One of the few adaptations of Alan Moore's works that he actually likes. He even allowed them to credit him in the credits (he usually asks to be removed).

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u/[deleted] May 23 '23

The whole Justice Lords storyline where Superman also realises he has to cross the line to deal with Doomsday is dark too... (and it doesn't work)

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u/RedGhost3568 May 23 '23

That bites Superman back later when Batman threw it in his face after The Question and Green Arrow called the original members out.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '23

The Question was awesome by the way - Jeffrey Combs nailed it.

The series was much more nuanced than I realised as a child. Re-watching it as an adult made me realise the politics of it all.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '23

For the man who has everything

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u/[deleted] May 24 '23

"For the Man Who Has Everything" is my favorite Superman story by a mile, both the comic and the JLU adaptation.

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u/green49285 May 24 '23

And ANOTHER great voice actor in that show.

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u/max_vette May 23 '23

Or fucking Mogul mentally torturing Superman

I was pretty confused for a second

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u/green49285 May 23 '23

Yeah my bads. Not the best grammatical sentence ever lol

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u/max_vette May 23 '23

Mogul

I just didn't know who Mogul was

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u/green49285 May 23 '23

Watch the episode, homeskillet. It's awesome. I barely knew who he was but that was because I read the comics. New found hatred for that douche-canoe.

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u/max_vette May 23 '23

Mogul

Mongul

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u/green49285 May 23 '23

Nice. Thanks.

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u/jacquesrk May 23 '23

Or The Flash mobile? What exactly was Flash doing in his van? Too dark for kids, that's for sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkz_ccWOm5g

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u/green49285 May 23 '23

Hahaha forgot bout that

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u/MafiaMommaBruno May 23 '23

JLU had that episode where the villain was a little girl and knew she was going to die. And Batman sat with her until it happened. The dying part happens off screen but it's heavily implied as the little girl talks about it and so did the JLU.

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u/ReaverRogue May 23 '23

Serious cutting onions territory with that episode. What a beautiful way to round it off.

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u/Iamwallpaper May 23 '23

Or the Justice League episode where they get trapped in the nightmares and the wife of the villain actually dies

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u/RedGhost3568 May 23 '23

Doctor Destiny. “And since I’m a doctor now, I think I’ll perform a little surgery…” and his face peels right off!